Mayweather-Hatton with a different ref.

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  1. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    VG addict i think you are one of the biggest baiters on the site.
     
  2. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That is honestly a really poor take. What you said does not excuse Mayweather from cherrypicking and bringing up Hatton who arguably, if not did, get a gift against meh Collazo at 147. Answer me this Pimp, did Hatton look good at 147 against Collazo (hint, it you actually believe this then idk what to say)? Also answer this, did Hatton fight at 140 most his career and got dragged up to 147 after several fights at 140 after flopping against Collazo?
    I'm not arguing about fight night weight, you missed the point. Hatton had looked good at 140lbs. When he got to 147lb, he looked objectively poor. He was LOOKING good at 140 for whatever that may be (fighting smaller opponents, more optimal fight night weight), he looked poor at 147lbs. And that's why, after Hatton went down to 140lbs, a few fights LATER, Mayweather asked him to move up.

    Come on Pimp just be rational, it was a helluva cherrypic
     
  3. Renaldo's Last Stand

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    Even with that home cooked ref that let him commit every foul in the book vs Kostys Tzyu, it wouldn't make no difference, Floyd still knocks him out and sends him face first into the turnbuckle
     
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  4. Pimp C

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    Why in the hell would the p4p #1 go down in weight when it was Hatton who turned him down years ago at 140? What kind of sense does that make?
    Do you honestly think that had they fought back in 2005 when pbf was at 140 fresh off his demolition job of gatti that Hatton then would've beaten pbf? If you do then you don't know **** about boxing. 140 or 147 made no difference pbf wins at both weights and probably worse for Hatton at 140 because that was peak pbf back then around the gatti fight.
     
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  5. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was there a better version of Hatton than the one Floyd beat? Yes, but it never would have made a difference. I loved Ricky, one of my all time favorites but any version of him eats straight rights and left hooks from Floyd all night unfortunately.
     
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  6. Quina74

    Quina74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can you not understand that this doesn't mean Floyd dragging Hatton up to 147 wasn't a cherrypick? Floyd still fought a Hatton that was career 140lb, a Hatton who looked best at 140. A Hatton who looked poor at 147, who then went back down to 140 for several fights then dragged back up to 147.

    Again pure conjecture. You going to answeer those questions? because otherwise you've admitted a cherrypick.

    Did Hatton look trash against Collazo at 147? Did he look best at 140? Did he not go back down to 140 after his poor performance at 147? Did he not then get dragged up several fights later to fight at 147 ( if I haven't made this clear 100 times, at a weight he has looked poor at against meh opposition)

    How does this not all make sense? How is this in any sense not a carefully opportune cherrypick by Mayweather?
     
  7. Braindamage

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    And the haters conveniently forget both Hatton and Cotto didn't want none of Floyd at 140. Arum said Cotto was too green and needed 3 fights before facing FM and Hatton said he wanted 3 fights in the US to get name recognition so the fight would be huge. Looking at a 2 year wait.
     
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  8. Pimp C

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    Pbf didn't drag him anywhere. Hatton called pbf out in the ring after a fight and agreed to fight him there. Also Hatton weighed the same in the ring on fight night against pbf at 147 as he did in the ring on fight night at 140. The weight wasn't a factor. I pointed out to you even Hatton saying as much. He thought he was much stronger than pbf and would bully and rough him up but he found out that pbf could beat him at his own game.

    Hatton struggled with Collazo because he was a southpaw who could box many fighters not just Hatton struggled and looked bad against Collazo. He was a hard guy to look good against. Again you have no answers as to why Hatton turned down pbf while both were at 140 yet want to blame pbf for the fight not happening at 140. What kind of logic is that?

    Btw you can't cherrypick a guy who was a top 5 p4p prime undefeated fighter who called you out. That's you trying to discredit PBF's excellent win.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Exactly Hattons team said they weren't ready but quina wants to put the blame on pbf. I mean you can't make this type of stuff up. I guess pbf should've just put his career on hold and waited for Hatton to be ready. Lmfao!
     
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  10. Quina74

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    You are looking this from a completely closed off mindset. Again like I said, Floyd fought a poor looking 147 lber Hatton who went back down to 140lbs then dragged him back up.. Just because Hatton called him out does not mean it wasnt a cherrypick - what kind of logic is this?

    I'm repeating myself here. I've answered this. It's not about Hattons fight night weight.. you missed the point, again. Hatton had looked good at 140lbs. When he got to 147lb, he looked objectively poor. He was LOOKING good at 140 for whatever that may be (fighting smaller opponents, more optimal fight night weight), he looked poor at 147lbs and hence his return to 140lbs for several fights.

    Hatton looked terrible against Collazo. Collazo didn't fight top elite PRIME opponents at the time so that argument doesn't work here. Hatton looked trash at 147. Hence the return to 140. Then big money fight with Mayweather so he jumps up to 147.
    You fail to understand that this does not mean Floyd did not cherrypick Hatton at the point at which he fought him.
    Yes you can there's a whole load of more context to it than what you've described here.
     
  11. Ilesey

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    More success? Probably.

    Same result - definitely.

    Mayweather was just better.
     
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  12. Pimp C

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    You're all over the place and have yet to address why is it PBF's fault when Hatton turned him down at 140 years earlier when both were fighting there? You refuse to answer it but want to shift the blame to pbf years later and call it a cherrypick. It doesn't work like that. You have to be fair and consistent if not you're a troll with no credibility who has an agenda and are an excuse maker.

    Pbf beat Hatton because he was better period. You can come with Hatton was cherrypicked if that helps you sleep better at night but it's just sour grapes at the end of the day.
     
  13. Braindamage

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    By that logic, Bivol cherry picked Canelo. If a champ from the lower division wants to challenge the best in the higher division and the bigger man excepts, how exactly is the bigger guy cherry picking? You keep saying Mayweather dragged him up. Hatton wanted to get the belt at 147 at the same time defeating the best in the world. Happens all the time. Just ask Canelo.
     
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  14. Quina74

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    You just don't get my argument. Just because they didn't fight then, does not mean Floyd didn't pick Hatton when he did fight. Do you at least understand that? This is simple logic. Seriously. And also just because Hatton supposedly declined the fight doesn't mean Floyd would have fought him anyway (the fight didn't happen at 140, so all your going off is conjecture) , so I'm not sure what you are getting at there.

    Yes because he was. Hatton was at his best at 140. He moved up to 147 looked objectively trash, he then went back down to 140 for two fights. Floyd being the A side money fight, saw that he looked trash at 147, that he went back down to 140 for several fights.. So he then dragged up Hatton to 147. Obvious cherrypick
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Lmfao pbf tried to fight this so called best version of Hatton at 140 but was turned down by Hatton. Yet in typical hater fashion you want to claim pbf really didn't want the fight at 140. Pbf has tried to be lineal in every weight class hes been and he was except 140 where hatton ducked him. Log off man. You will say anything to be heard and try and discredit this man.
     
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