Mayweather is the LINEAR Welterweight champion

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  1. lufcrazy

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    There are credible ranking systems but that is all subjective right? You said the man wasn't subjective at all.

    Didn't vitali beat sanders? That was 1 v 2 by a lot of rankings.
     
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    Going off naysayer's definition there isn't a traditional ww lineage worth following.

    However going off a more traditional definition there is a timeline on the cyberboxingzone website. It traces from duffy through to floyd. It has a couple of errors but by and large it follows an accepted lineal timeline.
     
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    Yes, ratings are subjective - which is why the top fighters are recognized as such by consensus. If enough people say you're #1 then you're #1.

    1 + 1 = 2

    Klitschko was coming off of a KO LOSS to Lewis and a win over a fat bloated Kirk Johnson. Tell me exactly WHY Klitschko should have been rated #1 or #2 in the world for having gotten himself knocked out and having beaten a beached whale. And even beyond that, Klitschko hadn't beaten a single HW of any notoriety since the Byrd KO LOSS.

    So, please explain exactly WHY Klitsschko should have been ranked so high when he fought Sanders...
     
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    I can't tell you why; my opinion means less then dick.

    However enough people said vitali was number 1 and he was recognised as such by consensus.

    1 + 1 = 2.
     
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    Whitaker beats McGurt to become The Man @ 147lbs.
    de la Hoya beats Whitaker
    Trindad beats de la Hoya
    Trindad vacates and moves up to 154
    Consensus #1 and #2 de la Hoya and Shane Mosley fight to establish new lineage @ 147. Shane wins SD12
    Forest beats Mosley
    Mayorga beats Forest
    Spinks beats Mayorga
    Zab beats Spinks

    The lineage of Zab's title goes back to Shane Mosley's win over Oscar de la Hoya which established a new lineage @ 147 after Trinidad vacates.
     
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  6. Nay_Sayer

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    Like who?
     
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    A consensus of boxing media and or boxing public/fans.

    Where does this definition come from? 1 v 2.
     
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    Like who?

    Some names please...
     
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    I followed your definition and that's who you named.

    Your claim about oscar and mosley being consensus 1 and 2 is interesting. Which ww did mosley beat to earn a top 2 ranking? Who was it who ranked him in the top 2?
     
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  10. lester proctor

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    You're absolutely right. Who in their right mind would deny that Erdei is The Man as LHW?
     
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    Sorry dude but my question came FIRST.

    You answer my question first then I'll be happy to answer yours.
     
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    That just happens to be the FACT of the matter.

    Didn't you say something about [url]Cyberboxingzone.com[/url] earlier in this thread? Well, they just happen to list [url]Erdei[/url] as the current LINEAR LHW champion.

    You got anything else, Einstein?
     
    Nay_Sayer, Nov 30, 2011
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  13. bballchump11

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    He's the champ, but not the best fighter. And I'm not sure how you gain a vacant lineal belt. I guess by unifying
     
    bballchump11, Nov 30, 2011
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    lineal not linear my dude
     
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  15. lester proctor

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    We are in agreement, why the hostility?
     
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