Mayweather Jr. has a boring boxing style, how has he always been getting so many PPV buys?

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He didn`t set up his shots as well as other more offensive minded fighters and relied on pot shotting and counters too much.
     
  2. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    He didn`t land much doing the rope a dope v Mnny and Cotto landed far more shots on Floyd than Manny did.
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My experience in going to the sports bar in Houston to see Mayweather-Canelo was that my two co-workers who joined me were white males (as am I) and the other 300 people there were all Hispanic.

    It was very loud until about the second round and then you could have heard a pin drop the rest of the way. We decided not to take a rooting interest, haha.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Hispanics are by far the most passionate fans. They were definitely rooting for both Canelo and then subsequently Pacquiao to avenge all the fallen Hispanic fighters. They just can't let it go lol.

    Their irrational hatred leads to them forming some very weird opinions where they completely dismiss Mayweathers skill and say he just runs and grabs. The irony being that they're admitting their favorite fighter cannot beat a guy who can't box.
     
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  5. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm sure there is a goodly amount of people that consistently paid $ to see Mayweather, because they flat-out just love to watch great fighters.
     
  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To be honest when ever mayweather fought it just felt like an event. Long gone are the days when I’d be staying up at least once a month until 4am over here in the UK to catch big title fights, but even when I did there was something about a Mayweather fight that was unparalleled to anything I’ve experienced before.

    In all fairness I have to give Pacquiao credit, his fights had that similar vibe, but English not being his first language meant there were certain barriers holding him back from the self promotion & smack talking Mayweather was able to use so well
     
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  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    When Roger Mayweather was the Mexican Assassin, I saw him a couple times. He got booed as he entered the ring but, at the end, the fans cheered a good fight, despite the result. And the Olympic Auditorium would be 85% Mexican fans.
     
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  8. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally I don’t believe most fans understand the roots of his success at higher weights and how he has manipulated his boxing fans by fighting " name" fighters that were in most cases beyond prime or fighting at a weight they shouldn't be at.
    For instance, Deloyhoa or Mosley would've looked great on his resume if those fights occurred in 1999 or 2000 , but by the time he fought them they were clearly diminished. ( Note: I'm not saying it was some kind of "grand plan". That he plotted on for years.)
    Pacquiao would've looked great on his resume if that fight occurred right after both fighters had defeated Deloyhoa or around 2009, if it had, the fight probably would've been bigger than it was in 2015.
    But excuse after excuse was made until Pacquiao was ko'ed by Marquez then suddenly the steroids or blood testing allegations he made against him when the fight should've happened was not a concern anymore.
    Marquez would've been a fantastic win at Jr. Light/lightweight but at welterweight, and many tough fights on his body, it simply wasn't that great a win, when looked at without blinders on.
    He fights Conor McGregor for his 50th fight instead of real pro cha mp caliber boxers like Spence, Crawford, Bradley, Porter, or even Brook, which would've been humongous in Britain.
    Smoke and Mirrors. But to casual boxing fans, that don't know the details, and only see the quantity of his fights, not the quality. They think he's done something amazing. Some put such an emphasis of seeing him lose, they don't realize they are being manipulated to spend big dollars on watching him in glorified sparring matches against opposition he clearly holds most if not all the cards against.
    Mayweather is a genius at self marketing, can't knock him for getting his money. But I can knock people that claim he's the greatest theirs ever been. And now Low and behold here comes Logan Paul, a "Internet boxing star" whose biggest claim to fame is knocking out a former basketball star, getting the opportunity to face Mayweather when many other real boxers sit the sidelines. I wonder how many of you will shell out your money to feed the Mayweather money machine on this sham of a fight?
    Smoke and mirrors. Better served at Barnum and Bailey's Circus than being counted as a serious fight in the rich history of boxing.
     
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  9. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think buying a Mayweather fight was a subconscious sort of win-win.

    You either watch a brash man absolutely dominate the other opponent with sublime skill. Or you watch a loudmouth lose in an upset.

    Regardless, when someone as dominant as Mayweather exists in the sport, the stakes for his fights will always be high.
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Some math ...32 of Floyd's 50 were against Hispanic boxers. I'm not saying he avoided black boxers but the numbers speak for themselves. A modern day Jack Johnson?

    People for get Floyd started at feather weight. Fought up to and including SWW.
     
  11. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See.
    What did I tell you. You dont know boxing.
     
  12. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They say the same thing about Pernell Whitaker.
    They don't see what objective observers see - Pernell schooling Jose Luis Ramirez and JC Chavez. They see a coward running away from the Mexican machismo warriors. Lol.
     
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  13. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think any of us saw the McGregor event as anything more than a big $$ exhibition.

    You can downplay the Marquez win all you want but the fact is Marquez iced Manny and Floyd had no problem with Marquez and beat Manny. Manny then went on to have some big wins.

    Floyd is far from the only champion whose resume can be analyzed to argue many of his biggest names were past prime when he beat them.

    Lewis
    Tzyu
    Jones
    Holmes

    are great examples.

    But those guys were eventually beaten.

    Going through an entire career without a loss is a very rare achievement even with good matchmaking.

    And be consistent on calling out other fighters who enjoyed shrewd matchmaking.
     
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  14. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The lower weights have had a plethora of good hispanic fighters so him facing that high a number of hispanic fighters is not surprising.

    He did beat a few overhyped white guys. Gatti and Hatton come to mind. Not surprising these were two of his easiest wins above 135 lbs.

    A few "experts" actually gave the rediculously overmatched Gatti a chance. Such things occur when emotion overcomes logic.
     
  15. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think he was a boxing heel that indeed did get more than a few watchers in the hopes of seeing his “0” erased. Personally I didn’t mind watching him when he was in with someone who would potentially give him a tough fight. Hence I paid for the ODH, Cotto, Maidana, Judah and Alvarez fights (I enjoyed the first three as they were decent, competitive tussles and the Judah fight had its moments too). After that I wasn’t that interested but I respect FMJ talents. Incredible defensive fighter but not particularly likeable as a person either. He’s surprisingly charmless actually unlike some other cocky, arrogant fighters ie Ali, RJJ even James Toney.
     
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