Mayweather/Marquez...A classic fan's perspective.

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  1. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    After watching the 3rd episode of Mayweather/Marquez 24/7, I was impressed by Marquez' speed in the sparring sessions. He's not faster than Mayweather, but this is not the area for which Marquez should be concerned.

    If these fighters were the same size, I think Marquez may very well be stylistically suited to defeat Mayweather. I'll repeat something I said earlier, Mayweather has to be too big in order to win. If Marquez can get his jab going, and impose his higher workrate, Mayweather could be in for a difficult time.

    With Mayweather coming in at 146, and Marquez at 142; I would suspect Mayweather to have a 10 lb. advantage come fight time. Mayweather may be too big. If Mayweather's size is not an obvious factor, Marquez wins this.
     
  2. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather..........uh, great avatar...uh............This is bull****. Mayweather should be forced to make the weight. He's the bigger man to begin with. I doesn't need more of an advantage in this situation. **** time limits and all. They should make him make the agreed upon weight no matter how long it takes. For a guy who's supposedly in financial trouble it's stupid to give up $600,000. Unfortunately, I think Mayweather can and will be sharp at 146. It's not like he's pulling a Chris Arreola. Bigger, faster, stronger. I see a clear decision for Mayweather.
     
  3. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather, close UD. Something tells me that after a rough couple of rounds, Mayweather will begin to find the rhythm with that counter right hand, minimize exchanges to the point where most of the rounds are decided by one or two clean blows, bank enough rounds later on in the fight to secure a fairly close, but probably deserved decision. Marquez is generally better against fighters who try to engage, and I just don't see PBF doing that unless it's on his terms.
     
  4. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I will be very surprised if this fight is anywhere near as close as most of you seem to think. In fact if this fight goes the distance I'll be left scratching my head. I think that would just expose Floyd to a degree.
     
  5. Wu-Gambino

    Wu-Gambino ESB Swordsman Full Member

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    Yeah, same as above, I expect Floyd to win this rather handily.
     
  6. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    This may well be the case, but let me try to use a couple of examples to make my point.

    Nearly a decade ago, Diego Corrales faced Angel Manfredy on HBO. Corrales blast Manfredy out in 3 rounds. Manfredy fought the right game plan, he just wasn't strong enough to be effective against Corrales. When I saw that fight, I knew Corrales would lose to Mayweather, because of the punches Manfredy was landing with little effect. I felt that Mayweather's stronger punches would have an entirely different effect. Mayweather may have more ability than Manfredy, but the key difference here is Mayweather was strong enough to effectively execute an effective fight plan.

    I think that Marquez has the right style to defeat Mayweather. I don't know if he will be physically strong enough to pull it off. If Marquez is not strong enough, I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up like Manfredy did against Corrales. If he is strong enough to be effective, I don't think he'll be capable of doing to Mayweather what Mayweather did to Corrales. I do think victory is very likely.
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's the feeling I've got as well. He also announced his comeback this spring, not even 18 months after announcing his retirement.

    I hope he looks to be in splendid condition and wins impressively. I want no excuses when Pac hopefully beats his ass.
     
  8. Wu-Gambino

    Wu-Gambino ESB Swordsman Full Member

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    :deal
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    I wouldn't go so far as to say that fight exposed Floyd, as I think past a certain point he was more or less carrying Marquez, but it certainly didn't prove anything we didn't already know. People can give the longest, most in-depth explanations they want, that didn't change the fact that Marquez had no legit chance in this fight. Quite the snooze-fest. Now that that one's out of the way, it's time for Floyd to actually show us something when he takes on the Pacquiao/Cotto winner (a.k.a. Pacquiao).
     
  10. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm waiting for the day an A level welterweight can arrive that can challenge Floyd. Right now there isn't one around.
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...the limb broke.

    I thought Floyd looked great technically. Everything was sharp, not a bit of rust. Mayweather looked like all of his prior speed of hand and foot were very much there. Credit must be given to him in that regard. Mayweather's style forced Marquez out of his game and the size advantage were way too much. I did not think the weight advantage would matter that much but it certainly did.

    I would really like for Mayweather to step up and fight Shane Mosely now, to prove himself. Mayweather became lightweight champ (at 146 lbs) last night, can he beat the welterweight champ?
     
  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Sugar Shane? Paul Williams?
     
  13. smitty_son408

    smitty_son408 J ust E njoy T his S hit Full Member

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    This guy is becoming unbearably overrated.
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly :good
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Thats the magic word isnt it ?

    IMO it wont happen tho, I think Mayweather will hand Pacquiao his ass.

    Ps. Im not even sure Manny will get by Cotto, I lean towards Pac by the smallest of pubes, tough fight for him but if he comes thru it then loses to Mayweather, please, no excuses about Mayweather only winning because he was too big for Pac, the better fighter will be victorious.