I enjoy Manny though he should stop ducking Floyd and using drug testing or pricing himself out as excuses. The numbers released to the public (including the one's I gave the BOTD to and used Arum's garbage numbers) show Floyd deserving a 59/41 split. Manny tried to beat Floyd at the negotiation table and said 50/50. Floyd makes pennies more with 50/50 while Manny more than doubles his highest payday.
40-40 - 20 to the winner then floyd beats a 59-41 split if he thinks he can win (and he does), and pac gets a better offer than he was offered if he believes he can win (and he does)
I hate Floyd fanboys, that I am proud to admit. And call me a ******* if you want, but I don't make ridiculous posts about his greatness, or think he's undefeated and the best ever. What a noobie like you doesn't know, I was one of the few Floyd fans many years ago, before boxing noobies like you discovered him, and I got **** on for saying he'd beat many guys bigger. His attitude and reluctance to face the best after 135 was what turned me off. So, you may be 31, but again, if you honeslty think no single athlete has received as much hate, then welcome to the sports world, you've missed out on a LOT of major things fanboy. And BTW....I see you using the race card like all the other floyd idiots...nice. That's usually the sign of low education, jumping immediately to race, since you can't fathom anything else. :roll:
When the man says he can still make the weight yet you still deny it, you are making a excuse. I am not talking about who he can make more money against (even though 2 of his last 3 fights against Mosley who was never a big draw, and Ortiz who doesn't have a big fan base either, probably made him less than what fighting Sergio would) I am talking about his claim he is still the best fighter out there. Either Pac or Sergio are within fighting reach, and both would make him a ton of money (of course one more so than the other, but that's not the point either.) My point is if he wants to continue to fight low risk high reward fights then that's fine and his choice. But when he has 2 different challengers right there with him in the P4P rankings, and he continues to ignore them for lesser opponents then he is not the best P4P boxer any longer. Because just like any other title, if he wont defend that "title" against his challengers (Pac or Sergio) then it's a forfeit of claim. Basically you have to fight and defeat the best in order to still be considered the best.
Leave 0 in the hands of the judges. Also, with your way Manny would be guarantee'd $42 million while Floyd would take a paycut getting about $42 million (from the cotto fight) as Floyd has a career high of $45 million while Manny has a career high of $25.5 million with Marquez. Floyd gets raped in negotiations if he took this deal. One guy gets to guarantee a 17 million dollar increase while another is only guarantee'd a $3 million dollar paycut. Horrible way to figure it. Check the numbers, they support a 59/41 and Pac can get it.
Cool story. Based on your posts I believe otherwise. I started watching boxing when RJJ was a rookie btw. I have probably forgotten more about the sport then you'll ever know; I also practice the sport.
Jan 18 2012: From the scene: "If Sergio Martinez can make 150, we can make the fight, absolutely. There are no excuses. If he can make 150, lets make it happen. I'm a little bit different from the other guys. I think he has a very, very impressive style," Mayweather said."
If Floyd was to follow the ***** logic in this thread his record would be 0-0-0. Whatever fighters mentioned there is an excuse doesn't have any fans, not a PPV draw, too big, too small, hasn't proved himself, doesn't deserve the payday. Floyd P4P No.1 in fantasy matchups for these guys.
i just want to see the fight - considering how much they would both make any way we shake it, it leaves a bad taste when the biggest fight around is the only one that cant be made...
atsch total bull****. 99% of your posts are to defend Floyd, and you still sound like a ****in noob doing it. You don't possess the mental understanding that comes with being exposed to a sport for nearly 20 years. And sure, you were watching jones when you were 10? nice try noob...I'm sure the other floyd idiots will buy it. Hell, 9 out of every 10 floyd fanboys is a boxer, didn't yo know? :roll:
I agree. But you can't expect one fighter to ignore the economics and take a paycut or make slightly pennies more for the fight while the other fighter gets to more than double their career high payday. Manny got a fair offer. He should have taken it and instead ended up with about $18 million at best for Timmy as the PPV numbers were horrible. Marquez Manny 4 does less than Marquez Manny 3 too.
You can argue with me all you want. It doesn't change that I know the sport of boxing and have been watching since 1988. We can argue all day but unfortunately for you, I'm right as I factually have paid attention to boxing since 88 and have followed the sport religiously since then. You can't change that Lance and the fact that your arguing that shows me how ignorant you really are. I was also watching Super Bown 23 where the 49ers played the Bengals and took it. Your a pathetic ******* and you hate on Floyd just to hate.