Mayweather V Pacquaio

His footwork has been very impressive against Manny. And that's what I'm getting at, I've been one of the guys that I mentioned in my post who has consistently said that these 'technical improvements' on Mannys part haven't been all that great. Marquez' lower half of his physical is blatantly not on the same level as his upper half in my opinion and he's still schooling Manny in the footwork department time and time again.

In terms of Marquez displaying footwork, last night was his goat outing. His ring generalship impressed me to no end, which lets say is not always the case. Another thing which was fantastic last night was his head movement. His defence is also not one of his most amazing assets, not since his featherweight days against the likes of Manuel Medina has he looked so potent in that department imo. His defence in terms of pure defence has always been slightly overrated imo, I remember a few years ago Ring Magazine were talking about his defence as though it was on a Hopkins level, and I thought that was way off. Some fighters have good offense as good defense, most of those fighters are in the form of a Lennox Lewis or a Tommy Hearns, they do it with the jab and output, Marquez' is different, his offense provides good defense but he doesn't hunt the opponent. He lets the opponent come to him and then rather he just unleashes hell and blasts the **** out of them with the best combos ever.

Another thing that is testament to his footwork not being on the level of the rest of his game is his ability to cut down the ring. Gainer was running round the ring like a lunatic and Marquez looked like a twat running round after him like a puppy playing with a ball. That is NOT cutting down the ring. My statement stands. His massive assets have always offset his weaknesses imo. In essence it is similar to James Toney, although they are different fighters. Toneys defence is one of the goats.

 

The truth is that Pacs opponents came forward and flattered his ability to counter them with speed and power. Pac can't fight aggressively anymore and looked horrible against Mosley and Marquez.

Floyd wins every round unless he plays a few rounds safe due to fear or lucky punch etc

 

exactly what I'm getting at

 

After the Cotto fight this was at its peak, I thought with his angles and southpaw style he would have a good chance but this year it has been clear he has took a step back, he's still awesome but isn't what he was and I think mayweather would beat him in a close but clear fight.

The fight has expired in many ways, it will still be great and with a great buzz but it just isn't gonna be as big as was a few years ago. I actually don't care if it happens now, sick of the drama

 

Well said. Mayweather fans coming out of the woodwork to state he'll beat Pac. Really sticking their necks firmly on the chopping block!

 

Well said. Mayweather fans coming out of the woodwork to state he'll beat Pac. Really sticking their necks firmly on the chopping block!

 

when someone like marquez doesnt be the aggressor to win a title and p4p title away from pac,your going to see less impressive offense from pac,less counters,less spaces for pac to land,and see him constantly follow a retreating marquez(and mosley) who go into defensive counter mode,which doesnt win championships most the time.

Mayweather doesnt throw combinations as much as marquez,his number of punches per combo is less, he pot shots and combos with 1-2s,that are sharp,then gets out of harms way.

floyd might be able to potshot move out of the way out night and win,or pac might just get off first,throw more and land more,and win a points decision in not very exciting fashion.

 

behave

 

Lets face it Manny Pac throws his punches like a amateur at times. 80% of the time he's reaching with his back hand, when he throws combinations he stands square on.


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"Roy Jones stated that he was still pound for pound the best fighter in the world technical, he told people that he can still do things that no other fighters can do. The beautiful way he throws hooks, throws combinations. And i totally agree with him! He stated that the pound for pound title is now a popularity contest, Manny Pac fights like a complete ****** at times, wild ******"

Roy Jones has deminished abilities, but technically..? he throws punches with better technique than Manny Pac, he throw better combinations against Jeff Lacy than most of the guys on the top-10 pound for pound rankings, Floyd Mayweather cannot throw 6-7 left hooks in a ro, and land them all. And Jeff Lacy was no bum........

All i'm saying is that technically, Manny Pac has NEVER EVERE BEEN POUND FOR POUND NUMBER 1!!!! David Haye technical is a better fighter than Manny Pac!!! I'm not saying he's achieved more..? But he's technically a better fighter.

Look at the tapes, Manny Pac fights like a complete ****** 90% of the time. I have stated on here many times, that he's like a character from street fighter, he's like a cartoon.

Check the Video tapes, Manny Pac is not technical genius. He's wild, he's looks like he has some sort of motorskill issues at times.

People making a big deal of Manny Pac moving up in weight..? David Haye was giving away afew stones in weight at heavyweight, so was Evander Holyfeild so was Mike Tyson.

Thats why technically the pound for pound rankings are aload of ****.

Last night Manny Pac he looked weak physically...? This inhuman strength that he had gained ever since he moved up in weight..? suddenly disappeared in my opinion.

And without he's totally ****. Floyd Mayweather wouldn't have to box and move against Manny Pac, he would walk him down and take him apart.

Victor Ortiz would also beat Manny Pac on that showing.

"Technically Manny Pac is just the same guy he's ever been..! But..? Physically he looked weak last night!"

"All these people need to let it go..? Floyd does not need to fight on the back foot against Manny Pac..? what for..? Look at the state of Manny Pac's attempt to fight inside last night..? wild, no technique, bad co-ordination, he just swings wild! he does not know what he's aiming for"


**** off!!!!

 

This is actually 100% spot on!!

I was chatting on Ben Doughty's Facebook page (I'd recommend adding BTW ) and the amount of people who are now convinced Floyd beats Manny is astonishing. While both Money and Marquez are counterpunchers, their style is completely different. Floyd rolls the shots and counters, whereas Marquez draws the lead and beats his opponent to the punch.

I've always said Floyd beats Manny, IF he stays on the back foot. But lately he has been coming forward much more than usual. Manny loves his opponent coming to him, and if Mayweather makes that mistake, I honestly believe Pacquiao knocks him out.

 

Also, a key point in this is that the judges obviously like Manny's aggressiveness. What makes people so sure the judges won't like the same thing should he fight Mayweather?

 

Whilst reading this thread, the thought of 'immediate reaction' comes to mind.... Pacquiao would still cause Mayweather problems and the fight would still smash all box office records!

 

He's an unbeaten American who lives in Vegas, I cant see him not getting the decision if it come to it.

 

I slightly favored Mayweather ever since this bout is discussed, only like a 10% edge though. Having seen this fight and the Mosley one that margin is increasing substantially.

 

Mayweather got the decision against the golden boy himself.......It will be that clear vs manny that there will be no dodgy card....Ive always said floyd beats manny at any stage of their careers and i stand by that.