Mayweather vs Marquez Negotiations Stalled On Weight

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  1. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Cotto is one fight removed from doing 500K on PPV and his last PPV did enough in Puerto Rico alone to break even for Bob Arum. Not a "superstar" draw but to say he has no draw is factually inaccurate.

    That said I see your point. Why would Floyd make a return against Cotto? IF Floyd is serious about a comeback, you continue to slow burn Floyd-Cotto. Both fighters are in "Comeback" mode and there's still too much ground to cover.

    Not only that but JMM-Floyd is a technical fight fans dream and there's A LOT of those guys out there.
     
  2. eze

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    :lol: Cheato has no skills. If Mosley were to beat Cotto or Williams Ill call for it.
     
  3. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    why does not making fights that will give Floyd a chance a losing a "smart move"
    thats whats wrong with boxing these days..... "oh, he could lose against mosely or williams...little reward high risk" blah blah. thats an excuse when there is a possibility if getting your ass PWNED. :good
    ever heard of Sugar Ray Leonard? glad he didnt think that way...or he wouldnt have come out of retirement by fighting Hagler who is bigger than him, not 2 to 3 weight divisions smaller. he didnt think about losing.. he had balls and dared to be great by fighting challenges....JMM is NOT a challenge, its a calculated mismatch that no one gives a **** about
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Theres no draw to a Floyd-Cotto fight currently, all I am saying.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Ray Leonard came out of retirement because HE WAITED for Hagler to get old :lol:

    Horrible example.

    Ray refused to fight Hagler in his prime and completely ducked Aaron Pryor. What about the Tommy Hearns rematch that never happened until they were both done as fighters.

    The fight is a warm up for Floyd. If JMM doesn't want to fight at 147, who says he has to gain weight?

    Then move on.


    Williams is a bad fight for Floyd and a smart move. He would beat Floyd.
     
  6. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I didn't disagree with that. In fact I feel you're correct that right now the heat is at an all time low on this fight. All I was disagreeing with was the stance that Cotto wasn't a draw sort of.

    The fight is still a few years off even when Floyd comes back. Cotto will probably have to beat Clottey and Mosley before he gets a Floyd fight.
     
  7. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One guy fought at 140. Another at 147 and 154.

    There was no ducking.
     
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    Lacyace Forever Knight Full Member

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    I don't understand why people are hyped for this fight? This would probably be a not so great match.
     
  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Woa woa, you mean, the guy willing to move up to face him? But he says no :lol:

    Or, hes okay to move up and fight Hagler when Hagler finally is getting older.

    But to move up to rematch Hearns, thats a no no.
     
  10. Realspitts

    Realspitts Boxing Addict Full Member

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    floyd spanking jmm is the best pre hype/fight for pac-mayweather.
     
  11. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Leonard also immediately rematched Duran despite the fact that Duran had a known problem of ballooning up in weight between fights.

    Basically? Leonard did a lot of shady **** that comes off as extremely business savvy.
     
  12. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    140 doesnt count..scratch that

    147? who??

    154? DLH...like i said...big ****ing deal...he got knocked out by a flyweight..so bad example

    its called "caliber" of people he fought at 147
    Judah ? well he was 140 pounder like floyd who went to 147, big deal

    Carlos Baldomir? he beat no one...except for Judah who floyd just beat too

    Ricky Hatton? another 140 pounder he fought at 147

    so his big accomplishment of moving up to 147 was fighting Carlos Baldomir. who is famous for beating Zab Judah who is famous for beating no one.

    oh yeah...we are back to ODLH

    so to sum it up...yeah floyd moved up to 147 but beat NO ONE of NOTE
    NEWS FLASH
    :deal
     
  13. Arriba

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    Eh not really. It's not like Floyd would be beating Erik Morales or someone Pac likes. Pac isn't the biggest JMM fan out there.

    If your argument is "Wow Floyd beat somebody that Pac struggled to beat!" then you could argue the fight is already as hyped as it gets since Pac beat DLH to bolivian.
     
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    If marquez really only wants to fight at 140, why not fight bradley . And mayweather wants to stay at 147, he could fight mosely. Then they are both happy!
     
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    DLH got stopped at 147 not 154.

    At 147 Floyd beat the ex champ and current champ in back to back fights.

    He then beat Hatton who was a previous title holder at 147. Although their weights were what they would be if they fought at 140.. it was under the 147 banner.

    Hatton weighed 154, exactly what he weighs as a JR WW. There was no extra weight gain like Collazo.

    So in 3 back to back to back fights. Floyd beat the champ at 147, the number 1 at 154 at the time, and then the champ at 140.