Mayweather vs Zivic....in the 50s

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  1. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Yes yes we all know Floyd would box rings around Fritzie but how would Money do over 15 rounds in the 50s with Zivic stamping on his feat, hitting him in the balls and headbutting him and a ref who was happy to let them fight it out as men as they did in them days?
     
  2. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maywather would find out that he has a lot to learn about the dark side of the force, thought with his defensive savvy, boxing IQ, and own borderline legal techniques like elbows, he could still pull it off.
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fritzie Zivic ? he'd maul Floyd like a pit bull on a poodle. I do think Floyd would make it to the last 3rd of the fight before crumbling under his assault.
     
  4. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    I'd actually pick Zivic surprisingly, if you give him liberty to foul however he pleases he can rough Floyd up. He had the style to trouble Floyd as well.
     
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    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The thought of Mayweather getting in a foul fest fight with Zivic is comical, Fritzie went into the trenches and beat Armstrong and LaMotta. Floyd can only run and try to avoid him
     
  6. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes—his own defensive genius, elbows (at that point he likely wouldn't care if he smashes into Zivic's face whilst framing or posture breaking) and a well lubricated bike. That's what it would take in my mind for Floyd to be competitive in such environment.
     
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  7. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Christ I didn't know he beat La Motta, what a tough dude!
     
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  8. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    Bukowski, cool avatar!
     
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  9. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

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    I got thinking about this match after seeing Money b*tch about Maidana roughing him up in their first fight. Also been reading about Zivic in the book In This Corner and he talks quite freely about his dirty tricks!

    Another guy I would like to see Money fight is Sandy Saddler, another dirty dude!
     
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    Boxing GOAT Active Member Full Member

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    Zivic didn’t fight in the 50s, he was prime during late 30s and early 40s. I pick Zivic over Floyd. Zivic would rough him up worse than Maidana, and he had wins over Armstrong, Burley, Angott, LaMotta. Bad night for Floyd.
     
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  11. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way Mayweather even takes this fight. Bummy Davis would beat the **** out him also
     
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  12. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Zivic was a bad man. Would have taken Floyd to school.
     
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  13. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zivic " maybe all the WW in the top ten could beat me, but I know I can beat Armstrong, because he would deliver to my delight " the inference being Armstrong would walk into Ziviz, thereby being grist to Zivics mill, no fighter was more adept with short uppercuts, and all round infighting than Fritzie .
    stay safe buddy.
     
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    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    During his career Zivic was outpointed by more than 50 different men. Is it really too far-fetched to imagine, that Floyd could have been a member of that group, and taken a decision from Fritzie?
     
  15. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    Zivic was a tough spoiler type who would do anything to win and could beat anyone on any night.
    He even gave LaMotta tough, close fights, beating the younger LaMotta once. That says a lot about him considering he was coming up in weight to fight a heavier, younger guy at middleweight.

    I can just picture this fight with Mayweather going into his crybaby mode, with him and his flunkies bitching about everything and making all sorts of demands.

    Mayweather would NEVER even think of taking this fight.