Mayweather's lead left hook

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I've had this discussion with RDJ before when he was thinking of becoming more dynamic and not being limited to a particular style.

    Learn the pull counter. True, you won't be able to pull it off regularly but it is likely that you will end up facing a guy slower than you or reaches with his jab that you can pull counter and put to sleep. If you don't know how to pull counter then when you come to face this guy you will have one less tool at your disposal to beat him.

    Guys who can pull off lead left hooks, right hand leads and pull counters usually end up doing them wrong because they are talented enough to get away with them 99%. Floyd often throws shots with his chin in the air or with his thumb up and elbow down. Very few times has he been made to pay for his mistakes. However, those few times have almost been catastrophic. One day, his luck may run out and one mistake he was used to getting away with will finally come back to haunt him.

    I THINK Louis and Hopkins throw good leaping left hooks. Maybe Patterson too. Can't remember their technique off the time of my head but I'm sure those 3 keep their chin down, tuck up, bend their knees etc
     
  2. LancsTerrible

    LancsTerrible Different Forms of Game. Full Member

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    The knockdown Molsey scored over Vargas in their second fight was a lead left hook. Not sure whether it was Mosley's power or just the speed of it catching Vargas unaware but he was pretty much out of it.
     
  3. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Indeed achilles. I may not be RJJ but I'm not facing his opposition, and there's no need to be as reckless as him while throwing the lead left hook either.
     
  4. johnnykoolkid

    johnnykoolkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    me, also check out my jab, lead uppercut, straight combo :good
     
  5. Journey Man

    Journey Man Journeyman always. Full Member

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    I only use it on southpaws. Slip to your left and then throw it around his guard.:bbb
     
  6. Jackdoyle90

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    I'm not sure what you mean by this thumb up, elbow down thing. Do you mean shooting the left hook from the hip rather than from his hand by his head in a defensive position, and twisting across?

    +1 on patterson's leaping left hook, the one he knocked out inigmar johannsoson with in their second fight is a thing of beauty! :good
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Here is the left hook looking pretty poor...
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    Here it is not looking so bad...
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    Here is the poor hook and high chin versus Marquez...
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    Here is Marquez making Floyd pay for his technical flaw...
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  8. Jackdoyle90

    Jackdoyle90 Member Full Member

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    Is there supposed to be a pic between DLH and the first marquez one? didnt see any good hooks.

    I see your point. I think he fixed it against mosely though
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Against Mosley he got caught with another right over the top and was hurt bad. Corely hurt him too.
     
  10. Jackdoyle90

    Jackdoyle90 Member Full Member

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    Ya but that was just Mayweather holding his hand low, it wasn't his left hook being countered.
     
  11. Smudger

    Smudger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Totally off topic, but those reflexes are incredible. Imma save that video :good
     
  12. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    You'll find it was a right hand over the hook. If he'd turned it over more he'd be more protected by his shoulder and had he kept his chin down he could have taken the shot on the top of his head, which is the harder part of the head and he knows this because hes broken his hand hitting that part of an opponents head.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s83EcsdB2ow[/ame]
     
  13. withoutwire

    withoutwire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So whats the best way to learn the pull counter? Sparring? pad work?
     
  14. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sparring.

    I like to work on it on the double-end bag. I actually just broke mine about 5 minutes ago while practicing it. I prefer to slip right instead of leaning back. There's multiple ways to get it done.
     
  15. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    pads then sparring. you need someone to mimick throwing a slow jab (speed up over time) that you can step back from while pulling your head back then countering with the jab, right hand and hook. you can do the uppercut but that **** is just dangerous.