Measuring Manny Pt1: Has Pacquiao Skill, Opponent Selection Improved since Marquez?

No improvement whatsoever, Floyd needs to capitalize on this and make the fight without demanding extra tests ASAP!

 

Its not Pacquiao's boxing improvement thats being questioned, its his ability to tear into a much bigger opponent with power and strenghth and mantain his physical stamina throughout a whole fight against these bigger guys when history shows us that no matter how skilled, the naturally smaller fighter is the one that will wear down and slow late in a fight.

.......Pacquiao is'nt being worn down by bigger guys and he's not slowing down one bit fighting much bigger men who are much harder to move physically.

Again, its not Pacquiao's boxing skill thats being questioned, its his physical strenghth and staying power against much bigger fighters.

 

Well, if Pac-Margo wasn't a schooling I don't really know what is..

 

One ****ing shot shattered Margarito's orbital bone.

Margarito ceased to be competitve after that shot because the effect of that single shot effected Margarito's vision.

It does'nt take a master boxer to school a fighter the boxistical skill level of Margarito.
Miguel Cotto in a losing effort boxistically schooled Cotto, but Margarito being the bigger fighter wore on the smaller Cotto and he succumbed to the bigger fighter.

Succumbing to bigger fighters is'nt something thats happeing to the PED user.

I dont need to wonder what would happen if Cotto went on a PED regimen and fought Margarito......Cotto would last the 12 and beat Margarito by schoolastic fashion.:deal

 

Are you talking about the Rd 4 shot that caused the markings on his face? IMO that was more of a case of a grazing type punch pinching the tissue around his eye. I think the brutal headbutt in the later rounds was what caused the orbital bone to break. Both ended up causing problems for him however.

Pac took roughly half the power punches Cotto did (buffed with bricks) so he didn't break down. He did say he got hurt but whatever I guess, PEDs it is :bbb

 

Pac has improved from what I've seen. That makes sense. Most boxers improve with time especially if they have a top trainer. Pac was a beast before & he's even more or a beast now. People saying Pac is sloppy and/or unskilled don't know **** about boxing. Froch beat Dirrell, Pac beat Marquez. The more "skilled" guy in most peoples opinion doesn't always win. This is pro boxing. There have been plenty of boxers who were thought of as sloppy/unskilled/flawed etc who have been very successful(Pacquiao,katsidis,Abraham,Calzaghe,Froch etc).

 

I agree with what your saying 100%:good its manny's ability to walk through and take punches from these bigger guys that concerns floyd not his improvements when he was at lighter weights he was getting buckled and ko'd by much smaller guys with less power. With practice you can improve on footwork,speed, stamina, jabs, hooks fainting,defense.


Punch resistance is something you cant teach or practice.:deal

 

There is so much hate and bias in this thread, from both sides, that its absolutely absurd.

 

mind boggling, the stupidity on this thread

 

Comparing fights at 130lbs to fights at 147lbs is a joke.

That's a whole 17lb difference, the guys at 147 are obviously slower than at 130lbs this is the dumbest video ever made.

Cotto ,Clottey and Margarito had 15-20lbs more of pure muscle on their body compared to guys at 130.

 

so true took the words out my mouth....above 130 he hasnt fought any true boxer punchers except a post-margarito damaged cotto, everyone else wuz there to be hit....with his speed and power guys wit no legs r sitting ducks

 

I thought that second fight with Marquez was just 3 years ago, which people are using as point of comparison. :think

 

at your avy.

 

One shot caused the swelling, but the fracture was likely a result of the accumulation of punches. the bone wasn't "shattered". margarito got hit with something like 500 punches in the face. if any fighter at hit someone 500 times in the face they would probably have a fractured orbital.

 

Yes I know..it showed great timing..Floyd has better timing than JMM, more accurate, hits harder, better chin...

ALOT THEIR TO POINT TO FLOYD WHOOPIN ON HIM BASEDO N PACS TECHNICAL FLAWS AND HOW A LESSER (THOUGH GREAT) JMM GAVE HIM ALL HE CAN HANDLE..