Mexicos Big 3 vs FLoyd

:rofl Nice!:thumbsup

 

why not.u cant tell me any reason why pbf wouldn,t beat jmm at any weight.he is by far a better fighter than any of those 3.erik m. is the hardest opponent,because he fights the smartest fight

 

MAB and Morales to me all seemed better 122lb fighters that they did what they did thats a testament to their greatness, but I do think the wars took alot out of them. Morales and JMM that Manny faced give a hell of a fight to Floyd, but I still think JMM falls short as 126 was his best. In his controversial loss to Norwood that is JMM at his best. MAB was never great at 130 so that leaves Morales. Sure, at 135 he was outboxed by slick Zahir Raheem, but 130 Erik Morales was still a beast. He had the ron chin and his right matched Mannys left. I really think Erik might of drawn or make Floyd look very bad. **** if Raheem had fought Erik at 130 Erik would of been fast enough to catch him. I think Morales pulls a Castillo on Floyd at 130 because of Eriks jab and habit of turning fights into wars. Raheem did well in running only because Erik didnt have his reflexes anymore, but it would be a close one between Floyd and Erik.

 

Well obviously Jones wasnt as he kod Barrera and beat him by close decision the second time.. I remember thinking he was past it though, as he had a tough time with fringe contender Orlando Fernandez and was kod by Pinckney... I dont think Mckinney was small he was Jones size and knocked him out.... I just think Jones had MABs number (although 2nd fight could have gone either way) Jones was his Ken Norton(ali). he was never the same Junior Jones again he had a few wins but was faded after that. .. MAB didnt respect him and just walked into that shot.

 

Actually MAB physically was in his prime at JF.. But mentally he became a smarter fighter,and use his boxing skills more when he moved up to Fw. He always had good boxing skills (i followed his career from the beginning) he was just use to beating everyone down by going toe to toe(except Jones). And i disagree about Marquez being at his best against Norwood, he fought horrible that fight (one of his worst)... He got better.. I also think he was probably as good at JL as he was at Fw. He didnt really seem to slow down till he got to Lw.

And i dont know why everyone is saying Morales gives him the most trouble..:huh I just dont see it, Barrera had better defense (when he wanted too)through more fluid combinations. He mixed his combos from body to head better than Morales and i think that would have been somewhat efffective against Floyd.. Although Morales was already faded when he lost to Raheem, he lost so decisevly that i cant help but think even a prime Morales would have had his hands full with a slick boxer like Raheem.. Much less Mayweather. At JL u say Morales was better than MAB but i dont see much of a difference.. Both were still great fighters but on the downside.. Yes Morales has the win over Pac at JL, But Barrera also beat Morales at 130 in the most clear win of the triology.
You say Morales would draw Mayweather into a war like Castillo? I dont see that happening.. Even though he waa better pfp than Castillo, they had different styles.. Plus Castillo was bigger and stronger and able to press Mayweather effective in their first fight with body shots and getting inside.
sounds like im not a big Morales guy but i do like him.. Ive rooted for him in all his fights outside of the ones with Barrera...... But style wise i think, that Mayweather will make him look like a not so great fighter..... Mayweather would have a tough fight on his hands against Barrera.

 

Make no mistake Floyd is actually a strong WW and has filled out in that division... Its just not his style to impose his strength... You can tell that Mosley was very suprised by Floyds strength.. Shane thought he was gonna manhandle Floyd, we saw he was mistaken.

 

You are basing this on what? Shane is only legit welter but he performed extremely poorly in their fight and Shane nothing like he was in his prime. So again I ask what are you basing this on.

 

He was hesitant and Floyd was even backing him up at times.. I know Shane is past it and couldnt pull the trigger like he used too..But Floyd looked strong and seemed to make a point about coming forward alot in thhis fight.... Im not saying hes as physically strong as Shane, but he showed hes strong enough to hold his ground. When he fought Oscar i thought Oscar would be too strong for him too but that wasnt the case.

Floyd is a full fledged welter and at the weight he belongs.

 

Floyd is no where near a full welter and neither is Manny.

They are both jr welters at best.

PBF takes on bigger fighters by utilizing distance, timing, and counter punching. Pac does it with volume punching, a solid punch, and insane endurance.

PBF did not back Shane up. Shane was backing up looking for big shot counters. Shane was waiting, YES, but that wasn't because of strength that was because he got pulled into PBF's game of FEINTING.

Shane at 37 was NOT going to win that game. Shane was NOT prime. Shane simply got caught up trying to land one big shot because of earlier success. He became flatfooted, stopped throwing a jab. Which he threw in the 1st and 2nd round, and became a one trick pony.