Michael Koncz: manny was ducking JMM because styles make fights...

Actually Marquez has been climbing the ring weighing between 138 lbs to 141 lbs for his lightweight fights.

He climbed the ring at 144-145 lbs in his fight with Katsidis wanting to measure and see how effective he could be fighting at that weight.

The problem for Marquez lies in that those extra 4 or 5 lbs he puts on are not all lean mass.

Let me give you an example, Fernando Vargas had a hell of a time coming in lean. There was always some fat in him.
The only time he came in lean as a whistle was when he fought DLH, thats right the fight where he used PED's.


I'm certain that if Marquez were to go on a PED regimen, he can weigh in at the limit of 144 lbs vs Pacquiao, and climb the ring lean and trim at over the Welter limit.......something Manny Pacquiao knows all too much about.

Point being, the extra lbs vs Katsidis were more fat than lean muscle. Marquez is not a fighter that routinely climbs the ring weighing in the mid 140's.

 

You and your conspiracy theories. JMM camp said during the Floyd fight that they have been training the same as in the lower weights. He just hydrated before the weigh in. Who the **** are you kidding?

 

Why would he duck when the judges rigged the first two fights anyway.

 

I dont have to kid anyone, all you have to do is look at Marquez' pictures from his fight from 130 lbs to 135 lbs and then to the floyd fight......
He looks thicker in the ring through each weight climb, and more body fat with each climb up in weight.

Supposedly Marquez entered the ring at 141 lbs in his rematch with Pacquiao......

......call it what you will, but Marquez had to have re-weighed himself clothed for that Pacquiao rematch because he looks thicker and with more fat on him in the ring with his fights with Diaz where both times he climbed the ring under 141 lbs unofficially.


Pacquiao himself looks thicker now, just without the body fat.
You do the math.:deal

 

well, pac has not signed to fight jmm yet so joyboys could still say he is still ducking him. Once he signs, joyboys can say he is cherrypicking him.

 

pac should have fought marquez 5x's so pac would not be called ducker...and hopefully marquez would have won one of those fights...

 

"Manny has improved dramatically."

I didn't really see that in the Mosley fight. Perhaps Pac declined or reverted back to his old habits. But ok. Let's say he has improved tremendously. Does that necessarily give him an advantage over Marquez? JMM is a very smart fighter who has been studying Pacquiao, especially the "improved" version. Because of this, I think JMM will be prepared for whatever Pac brings to the table. I don't expect JMM to win but I think it'll be more competitive than what most people think. Shame that they didn't fight sooner.

 

:rofl This **** always make me laugh, they try to argue reasons for this too!. So are you all saying Floyd is THAT much better than JMM, weight not meaning a damn thing? Bcuz I didn't see him enforcing his size on JMM. If not, why the **** is Pac fighting him at this weight?

 

Even you're not that stupid puga........we all know that Pacquiao has been ducking Marquez for over 3 years now, it will be 3 years and 8 months between fights when they both climb the ring ropes in November.

Is it a cherrypick now?
Considering that Marquez could very well still give if not beat Pacquiao and that he is Pacquiao's most dangerous opponent beside Mayweather.......in that sense, its not a cherrypick.....

......but in the sense that Pacquiao has been waiting for that time frame where Marquez is in a declined enough state but not so far gone that he'd be ridiculed for picking him, it is a cherrypick.

Certainly if I'm Bob Arum, I would not have matched Pacquiao with Marquez earlier.
The target for promoters against older fighters that can beat yours is to take him on when
1. There are no other easier money opponents available....

and

2. Take him on right at the point where Marquez at 38 years old and climbing up two weight divisions, is ready to be taken.


Lets be real here, a fighter in the position that Pacquiao is in now does'nt take on the fighter that has his number under fair and honest conditions, even if those conditions could be made (like the fight at 140 lbs) you just dont go there because you have the clout to pull the strings and just dont have too be fair.


.......ohhhhhhhh, but be ready Puga, because a Marquez victory under the conditions he faces will knockdown Pacquiao's recent welter resume several notches.
In that sense, Pacquiao has alot to lose in facing Marquez.
A loss, and it would be a given that Pacquiao has faced less than a stellar Welterweight list of fighters.

When a great fighter is nearing 40 years old, I have no expectations of him. Anything he can give around that age range is icing on the cake.........

......but ooohhhhhhhhhhh how sweet that cake will taste if the victory (and short of a KO I'm talking about eyes of the masses because Marquez will never get a decision victory against Pac) comes this November against Pacquiao under the circumstances I've described.:yep

Will you disappear crying Puga come a Marquez victory?

 

i guess we can say jmm is old and worn like everybody said bout mosley when floyd beat him.
he did get dropped by kasidas and diaz worked him and many more


but he did find a way to win even tho these guys are ass compared to jmm prime

 

i'm using my phone right now and it would be hard to answer your long and winding post point by point. but after reading it, all i can see was a ready built-in excuse if jmm lose. where is your confidence now divac?

 

It is what it is Puga......free play downfield!:yep:bbb

 

He had fought him twice already by that point, what's the problem? Besides, why are you willing to believe Konman but not willing to believe Bob Arum when he said that the tests aren't an issue with Manny anymore? Is one really more trustworthy than the other, in your eyes? For real??

 

Does that mean that if Pac wins, you'll give Pac full credit for winning?

 

Apples and oranges, since Pac won't come into the fight weighing in the 150's like May did when he fought JMM. Also, styles make fights, which is why Pac has a harder time with Marquez than Floyd does, but destroyed Hatton at Hatton's ideal weight class in a way that Floyd could not.