Mijares got KO'd ?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jyuza, Nov 5, 2008.


  1. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,394
    8
    Sep 12, 2005
    I know bro but I didn't have an internet connection for a week.
     
  2. #1Rounder

    #1Rounder Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,581
    56
    Jul 22, 2008
    I think the first round was a typical feeling out round for Mijares.. He was just trying to get a beat on the un-Orthodox style of Vic., when all of a sudden Vic landed the upper-cut that floored Mijares.. Luckily for Mijares there was not more time in the round... After that he was to timid because he felt Vics' power... That knock down changed the whole fight....
     
  3. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    15,124
    7
    Mar 6, 2006
    trust me take this to the bank Joe by 8th round KO:good
     
  4. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

    38,291
    23
    Sep 21, 2006
    Mijares is in the same class as Zab Judah

    too much skill & talent but not mentally sound
     
  5. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,394
    8
    Sep 12, 2005
    Exactly what I was thinking. But I expect him to rise again someday.
     
  6. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,394
    8
    Sep 12, 2005
    Joe does have the speed to outland Jones but I don't think he has the power to knock him out, specially this soon.
    But of course it ain't out of question. Anything can still happen.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    27,199
    93
    Dec 26, 2007
    As I've said before, it was his mental strength that was exposed, not his technical skills. Then again he didn't even come out like he usually does, completely neglecting the jab, using range, etc. He just fought like an amateur. I've rarely seen such a skilled, promising fighter who'd proved so much prior put on such an awful performance.
     
  8. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    15,124
    7
    Mar 6, 2006
    nothing mental really accept his fear. it was darchinina style that kept him from doing what he does best. you can thow his underestimation of speed in as well.

    he was mentally there as he did good in the 7th round. he just couldn't get it done all the time to to those above factors
     
  9. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

    27,199
    93
    Dec 26, 2007
    Fear is quite a big part of mentality.

    What you say is all possible, but what I saw was an over-confident, arrogant kid in there winging it due to his overestimation of his own abilities. No jab, no movement, no gameplan. And when he was tagged and hurt early on, he never seemed to recover. He never sat back, re-grouped and switched it up. Instead, he went down the very opposite road and decided to brawl it out in an undisciplined manner and was never able to build any rhythm or confidence up. He failed in the mental aspect of the fight moreso than the technical one.

    Of course, it's also very possible that Darchinyan was just a bad matchup for him and always would be. Just hard to believe given the skills Mijares showed prior to this fight.
     
  10. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

    2,998
    0
    Jan 19, 2008
    It was his mental strength that got exposed as Sweet Pea said. Because of that Round 1 KD, Mijares didn't really know what to do. He wasn't mentally strong enough to say "Ok, I got KD'd, now back to my original gameplan". You gotta give credit to Vic for taking that away from Mijares. He exposed Mijares' mental flaws.

    This makes me appreciate someone like JMM even more.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    20,005
    7
    Mar 8, 2007
    How so?? Zab is a dynamic fighter...much more of a waste of talent than Mijares...

    When you watch Zab, he has unbelievable speed and power...He makes you go WOW!

    Now does that transate to greatness? No.. but Zab has accomplished more than Mijares has, fought stiffer competition as well
     
  12. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

    20,005
    7
    Mar 8, 2007
    Mijares had three problems...from what Im reading from the forums so far

    1. He was overconfident and took Vic lightly...now this shows unprofessionalism..he can recover from this though..

    2. He was unable to adjust and was mentally broken...now this could spell doom for him if its true..you cant teach someone to be mentally tough.

    3. He doesn't have the speed, power and elusiveness to deal with Vic...Now this is the greatest problem of all because its basic biology and physics...And there sure are better fighters than Vic in, below and above this division.
     
  13. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

    18,614
    8
    Apr 10, 2005
    Short answer- Mijares just isn't as good as many made him out to be.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

    31,154
    2,108
    Jul 24, 2004
    Its quite simple.....for a fighter who depends on being slippery to do what he does best, and thats counter.....Mijares could'nt get his shots off because he just could'nt evade Vic's shots.
    There were very little countering opportunities for Mijares.

    ......having said that, and looking back.....the few fights I've seen of Mijares, he was most impressive vs Acre, but in quite a few of his subsequent fights, he was'nt as slippery as alot of people around here would like to think. For a slippery fighter, his opposition have certainly landed a fair amount of shots on him......point being is that he has'nt been completely without avoiding shots like say a Pernell Whitaker or Mayweather Jr., at the top level would have.

    Still you would'nt think Vic would have his way the way he did.....
    .....but it happened, Vic exposed some of the holes the defensive holes Mijares has defensively.
    ......just something that I've observed.
     
  15. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

    15,124
    7
    Mar 6, 2006
    it was the style mijares has been knocked down before and hit with flush shots from big punchers in arce and munoz. he was not able to get off his shots due to the akward style matchup. mijares was quite confused he could not find his range. it's not like he gave up just stop trying he really looked puzzlesd . after the first few rounds he was trying to lure Vic in by taunting him .hoping vic would come in recklessly like in the donair fight so he could counter him . this was his plan thing is vic was a lot smarter and quicker then he thought. once he tasted that upper cut he show poise and heart by getting up and not getting flusterd . we wasn't pulling a WALD KLIT like in the peter fight he got up and kept calm.