Mike Tyson is the best ever!

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    He didn't wipe out Holyfield. But other than that, he beat everyone significant yes.


    Tyson defended the WBC belt 9 times, but only became linear champion after beating Spinks. He defended the lineair title twice after that, against Bruno and Williams. So it's 6 for Marciano and 2 for Tyson. Although Tyson beat more ranked contenders in his career than Marciano did, i think.
     
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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    His run in the 80's was one of the best ever, no doubt. Those fighters are underrated due to how Tyson blasted many of them, a physical phenom and an ATG.
     
  5. Shotgun

    Shotgun Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime motivated Tyson with Kevin Rooney in his corner, a full moon in the sky, an optimal red blood cell count, pre-prison, pre-Douglas, pre-Givens, post-Bonecrusher, 74 degrees outside but getting colder with a chance of rain is unstoppable
     
  6. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Like the originator of this thread, I have been watching a lot of "all-time
    great" fights lately - going back through the last 50 years or so.

    The fact is - he is right. If you take prime Tyson and put him against
    Marciano or anyone else, you can't even see them lasting 2 rounds with
    him. I am no huge Tyson fan. In fact I am a New Zealander and a Tua fan.

    But this guy is right. Prime Tyson absolutely destroys every ATG in my
    opinion - and with EASE for the most part.

    Just my opinion after watching many many fights.

    Kind regards,

    KIWI.
     
  7. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    BTW - one of the saddest things in all boxing is that prime Tua never
    fought Tyson. What a WAR that would have been!

    KIWI
     
  8. Chief_Second

    Chief_Second Well-Known Member Full Member

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    tyson was possibly the best version of a heavyweight fighter in history but not the greatest and f##ked his own career before he could build a legacy
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not particularly fond of Tyson. I'm not really fond of him at all, actually.

    And, I think any version of Tyson would probably have lost to Holyfield, or Lewis. Plus, I think Ali, Joe Louis, and possibly Sonny Liston could have beaten him, as well.

    But...

    His reign as heavyweight champion was damned impressive, and if he's not Top 10 (depends on the criteria one uses), then he's certainly Top 15. Great fighter at his best...and he would have been a challenge for any of the other great heavyweights.
     
  10. boxingabc123

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    Tyson made his 9 defenses in a 3 year span. Imagine how long it would take todays heavyweights to defend the title 9 times. Probably about 5 years.
     
  11. oblate

    oblate Active Member Full Member

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    :patsch. Your conclusion is wrong. Tyson is so lucky because he is the only fighter in history to have the luxury to be considered passed his prime conveniantly before his first loss. MOst other boxers have their first loss and are then called exposed and hype jobs but tyson is "past his prime" and "in his prime is unbeatable". its a damn joke.
     
  12. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Yeah right . . . how many boxers have you seen son? :huh :D

    :hi:
     
  13. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Which fights did you watch?
     
  14. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    In the late 80's, Holyfield was coming on a heavyweight contender and beat some guys that Tyson also beat, like Thomas.
     
  15. Azania

    Azania Active Member Full Member

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    True dat...Mike had the right combination of speed,power and intensity to catch any heavweight.

    The only fighter...IMO...who had the best chance to beat him...albeit closely...is Muhammad Ali...the one who showed up for the first Liston fight...Tyson was gonna struggle to get to that Ali.Ali,at that stage,had probably the fastest hands of any heavyweigh ever...with combinations....and was just as fast with his feet..and had a chin to match.

    I could see Ali frustrating Tyson to a close UD.Ali's bragadocio would probably send Mike over the edge too...Probably punching Ali in the nuts or somethin' in frustration...leading to aDQ.

    Mike had the tools fo sho...Perhaps better than any heavyweight in his prime.