Mike Tyson v.s Sonny Liston (Bareknuckles)

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Bad_Intentions, Jun 17, 2007.


  1. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    We've never seen either fight bareknuckle so who knows? Both would be brutal at it most likely.

    Tyson had experience fighting on the streets growing up, while Liston was sent to break peoples legs at a mill he worked at.
     
  2. hobgoblin

    hobgoblin Active Member Full Member

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    I'll bet Liston has fought many more bareknucke street fights than Tyson.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's a nice post.

    Couldn't have said it better.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Loads of these guys lace them up although it sounds like you may be at a higher level.

    But when you say things like "Jeffries had no power" and then attack someone else for saying the opposite because "how can they know?", when you predict an easy win for Tyson over Liston, you look a bit naive.
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That is almost beyond doubt.
     
  6. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it's a fantasy fight. imagine tyson with no gloves fighting bareknuckles with liston.
     
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  7. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    your a ****ing idiot. back then boxers WERE PURE!, they didnt use weights to get strong for boxing matches, they didnt use STEROIDS like some of the morons use these days. get the **** out of here.

    classic boxers spent hours training, hitting the heavybags and running 14-15 miles every day.
     
  8. dado

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    ok just to demonstrate to u how much bare knuckles make a difference heres an example,,,, when tyson fought mitch green in the ring he didnt even knock him out,,, when he fought him on the street did u see what happened to greens face,,, he got his ****ing face crushed he looked like he got stomped by ten people that was from a couple of punches,,,, a few seconds worth of fighting,,, and tyson broke his arm too,,, that woulda been from hitting the concrete or something
     
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  9. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Liston gets Tyson in an ally and has Tyson pissing his pants befor he destroys him.
     
  10. dado

    dado Member Full Member

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    ur a stupid ****ing geek why the **** do i wanna spell words correctly im not writing an english speech im on the internet u ****** i got no time to punctuate as long as u can read it its good enough what the **** does that have to do with boxing anyway,,,, mike tyson im sure knows how to punch without gloves by the way,,, that wasnt the point my point is that look at what happens to a mans face when he is punched by a bare knuckle tyson,,, those old skool fighters took hours to mess someone up that bad,, doesent that right there prove a point?? do u think john L sullivan could do that to mitch green in such a short period of time??? if he couldnt do it to old skool outta shape doughy looking fatasses ,,, sorry im not at all convinced that these old fighters could stand any chance against the modern era,,,,, bak to the tyson-liston arguement,,,,, listons reach etc, would not come into play... its a bare knuckle fight speed is all that counts all tyson needs to do is jump inside quickly and uppercut,left hook combo ,,, and there go some facial bones.
     
  11. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Your main objection is that the "old timers" were inferior athletes, yes?

    If I could demonstrate to you that they weren't too far behind modern guys when it comes to measurable sports, would you reconsider your position?

    Incidentally, what sort of record and which combat sports do you compete in? Not doubting--just curious. Sounds like you may have a few interesting stories to tell.
     
  12. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm willing to bet the winner is the one who doesn't break his hands...

    Just a question - why do people insist Liston was bigger and stronger? On what grounds are these claims based?

    As for meanness - well Sonny was a mean ol' SOB for sure, but he had a quitting streak as well. I do agree though that he had a genuinely mean streak whereas Tyson's was more manufactured.
     
  13. janitor

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    Liston was a leg breaker for the maffia early in his boxing career. The police in his home town caried his photograph in their patrol car's with instructions not to approach him. If he and Tyson walked into a dark alley together then Liston would be the one walking out.

    A bare knuckle fight is a completely different game to a street fight. It tends to be more drawn out than a gloved boxing match not less. The deciding factor would likley be durability and stamina. In this case the winner would probably be whoever adapted to the new rule set best.
     
  14. JIm Broughton

    JIm Broughton Active Member Full Member

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    Bare knuckle fighting is a completely different world. Hands are very brittle so in a BK fight you have to pick your punches alot more carefully. No gauze,tape and gloves. Remember, gloves are were designed to protect a fighters hands, not the other guy's face. With this in mind I think Sonny has the edge if he can measure Mike with that 85" reach and drop a couple of right hand bombs. In the clinch Sonny would do just fine as well being as strong as he was. I'd put my money on Sonny but I would'nt bet the farm.
     
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  15. dr greenthumb

    dr greenthumb New Member Full Member

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    it depends if you mean old bareknuckle rules or modern ones ( basicly a street fight) i have spent years watching modern bare knuckle fights and from experience liston and tyson are the fighters i have always said would do the best fighting bare knuckles but imo sonny takes this
    As i have a relativly limited knowledge of the old school bare knuckle fights i cannot pass comment on how the fight would have gone under those rules