Name a great fighter Mike beat which had George Foreman's style. Name a great fighter Mike Tyson beat who was prime when he fought him.
Foreman was not sloppy. He was very accurate. Doesn't matter how wide the swings are if you knock the opponents out, it means you're doing something right. And the 90's version was anything but sloppy. He throw many straight textbook shots with high accuracy. He was brutally efficient.
Mike had trouble when guys back him up, and even with Douglas who wa This showing up out of shape thing is not a good excuse.. He was never consistent, and he was a second from being stopped by Mike at the end of that round I think round 8.. Douglas was never great and had one great win against Mike.. He exploited Mike's one dimensional (a gret one dimension) style.
ohh so I see so more flaws in your points your avoiding agian you asked me which person did Mike beat who used tactics George used I gave you trever who pushed smith and bruno both hit hard and both was stronger then mike both were sluggers both were slow bruno was sloopy smith was slow and not sloopy close range slugger I told you to name me a person who beat mike who was slow and sloopy why cant you do that I gave you 2 sluggers who was beat by mike why is it your putting buster in this who wasnt sloopy or slow I told you that odd quote doesn't work with me I dont need anybody who gave mike trouble who wasnt slow or sloopy I want the person who was slow sloopy like George which man is that who beat mike you have no reason to pick George here when I named 2 sluggers slow and 1 was sloopy like George who mike beat it is nobody George beat who was fast used good defense who George beat when he was young joe wasnt like mike George lost to ali and jim you have nobody to compare to
Trevor didn't push back like Foreman. Are you kidding. No one compares to George in physical strength and style. It was an intriguing matchup. Mike could not box, he was a going forward guy, who had fast hands, but could not back up and George was big who would have maximum power with Mike. George had his weaknesses also, but stylewise I think he takes Mike.. Douglas was not a great fighter, and he wiped the floor with Mike. Mike was a dominant fighter but not great. George has the style to beat Mike. Push him back take away his momentum and punch with the uppercut when he comes back.. George beat more great fighters than Mike, and he fought a relatively prime Ali.. Beat Frazier and wiped out Norton... Mike has himself to blame for falling for all the things Cus warned him about. Even today he talks like he knows it all, yet if he is honest he fell for everything even more than most people. Cuz knew Mike was weak that way.. He was a dominant fighter, but if a guy fought back and could get him out of his rhythm he lost. Even Evander a smaller guy pushed Mike back and didn't let him punch at times and landed when he backed up and made him back up. Lennox just knocked the heck out of him.. What are you defending?
This discussion has gone off the rails. Old George and Young George were very different fighters. Isn't the idea of this thread a fresh out of jail Tyson vs Old George? Why are we talking about Young George's style? Old George didn't really do the pushing, framing, and wide swings of Young George. Old George fought slow and plodding, cross-guard style, paced himself, threw straights and uppercuts. Also, why are we discussing young Mike's style, when this fight is post-jail Mike who was more like a version of Earnie Shavers with a good chin and decent stamina? It seems some are discussing post-jail Mike vs young George? Or prime Mike vs young George?
George was way better skilled then his young days he wasted less energy he picked shots he was way tougher he had real defense this is the best ver of George old mike had felloff alot but he only could be dropped after mutiple rounds of shots uncanny his toughness even though mike movement was way downgraded he still could hit mike even in his felloff mode moved faster and showed vs the great holy that at times he could still do good In rounds not as great as when he was young but not to bad im stuck on this match they say I like to give mike excuses no I'm a realist I only argee to logic or facts
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I think George had the style to beat Mike, and Mike could have had many more defenses, but he never won the big fight against a prime great. George was a machine who moved forward and got his momentum that way, similar to Mike but he was slower than Mike but stronger, and the strong aspect would win since he could take Mike's punch better than Mike being smaller could take his. George was much stronger than Mike.
90's Foreman punch stats Foreman landed 54% of his jabs against Hoylfield. 33% of his power shots and 42% overall Landed 55% of his shots against Savarese Landed 284/388 or 73% of his shots against Briggs. Landed 56% of his punches against Morrison Stopped 19 opponents in the first 4 rounds. You do not consistently land above 50% of your shots against your best competition if you're a "sloppy" or wildly "inaccurate" boxer. You do not continuously score early round knockouts if you are sloppy and lack accuracy.
and I think your trolling still by skipping over the whole page and before using lies and dumb quotes like trever didnt push and mike being beat by buster and wont give me a slugger who beat mike who was slow and sloopy like George cause it never happened agian I make a legend look like a idiot by saying facts and the person who is debating me avoids by saying lies same as magoo who I showed bowe and razor moving better then louis he avoids that and says how razor lost cause he couldnt debunk other day ago by legend magoo agian lied saying how sonny moved better then thomas bowe and razor which he didnt I showed vid proof showing he didnt was told but I think he moved better which was him acting like he had bad vision cause he know I was right a thought cant go over something that was never shown 70s told me lennox the best tallest outboxer could be beat by louis I told him to name somebody who louis fought who moved like lennox he couldnt now you I told specificly to name a person who beat mike who was slow and sloopy like George you named slow and sloopy people like smith who was slow hit hard and punched with good tech was beat bruno hit hard was almost as slow as George didnt punch to sloopy but was beat you people need to stop this crazy/ blind acting stuff with me it doesn't work good at all it make you people look like idiots you said you think like magoo said which is just that sense you cant name anybody George beat like mike I gave you names people mike beat who used stuff George used slow sloopy and pushed and for a fact they were beat I know mike would win it is no thought I have it is nobody here who can show me video of George beating anybody like mike the same way it is no video showing sonny moving like the people I named never happened the same way Louis never fought anybody who moved like lennox razor or most of the 70s-90s dudes it's no proof of none of this cause it didnt exist
YYour admire Mike I will say that, from what it sounds like.. George was stronger than Mike and had a jab and Mike was faster, and the strength of George and that one punch he would land of his 3 or 4 would hurt Mike and Mike would be stopped in 3 or 4 rounds. George would take Mike's punches much better than Mike would take his, and Mike would be punching up and George would not back to the ropes. I wanted Mike to beat George had they fought, but I was scare for Mike. I knew George had the style to beat him and George knew it also. That is why he came back. in 1987. The Douglas fight derailed the matchup, since I think George beat Cooney a month before Mike fought Douglas.. Bruno did not hit harder than George. Now I think you are trolling. You don't know the difference between a Foreman and Frank Bruno. George was anything but sloppy. Look at his left hook against Adlison Rodriquez. I don't think your arguments are strong, I think you think they are, but you admire Mike and believe what you want, so that is good to have confidence with opinions on here. Mike had a dominant career and he stopped some good guys, but never a prime great. And I think your agenda is to make Mike into a greater fighter than he is. He needed that big win he never got. You are talking about Bruno and Razor Ruddock. Good fighters, but not in the level of someone who makes guys great.