Mike Tyson vs Muhammad Ali, 4 rounds

No we're not, at least not in a H2H perspective.

Are you really that clueless about boxing ?!?
Haven't you ever heard of stylistic matchup ?!??????

Tyson beats Ali every single time, he just has his number.

You're nuts.
The only place where powder puff Ali only stops Tyson is in your dreams

 

Then tell me how you really feel about Mike Tyson.

 

Emmanuel Steward said Mike Tyson while an ATG had his limitation and his limitation was big boxers who could move. I'll provide the link if anybody wants. The consensus among trainers, boxers, and boxing historians is a Prime Ali beats a Prime Tyson. Consensus doesn't mean everybody but it means most.

 

6'3" He could carry a solid 220 pounds, maybe a tad bit more:



I think as a fighter he came along at the right time with a lot of guys who were really intimidated—I hate to say it, a lot of them, by him—because most heavyweights have big bodies but very small hearts and that’s why the strong minded guys such as he, Larry Holmes, George Foreman—they dominated the division because they’re strong-minded and strong-willed individuals. But I thought Mike came along at the right time with the speed, the intensity, and he made up for his lack of size by incorporating speed, and that’s what’s always effective, but when he fought the bigger guys who were like 6’4” guys or 6’3 ½” who were not afraid of him, he had problems.


https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/127858

 

Thanks for that link! I enjoyed the read, and went down a few rabbit trails to other articles from there...and I also enjoyed them as well.

 

Initially, Mike might be the intuitive pick because arguably, all that Tyson was seemed concentrated into the first 4 rds or so before weaknesses became more pronounced.

But posters have already provided examples of Mike not even necessarily dominating the opening rds - and that, despite denials, includes what Buster Douglas put to Mike from opening gong.

As fast as Ali moved and boxed in his prime it was still in deference to having to fight the whole route if need be.

With just 4 rounds duration, you’re going to see something else again from Ali in terms of speed and mobility. And, as he did with Foreman, Ali will ensure respectable offence along the way - he will keep Mike honest.

The abbreviated snapshot of Holmes success while moving v Mike is a very valid reference. Larry simply didn’t have the youth or conditioning even as at that time to keep it up.

 

I feel he'd be a nightmare for Ali. He's a superior version of Frazier in every possible way.

 

Tyson was not properly prepared for that fight, so it's completely irrelevant.

Ali ain't got the power to keep Mike honest.

 

Exactly! I’m not getting all this “Ali has no chance” talk. Frankly he’s the favorite in my book!

 

you’re either a ****ing idiot or a huge fanboy if you actually believe this. In my experience with you, you fit both criteria.

 

The Tyson - Douglas is completely relevant. You can’t “edit” out the parts of Mike’s prime that don’t suit you.

 

Why 4 rounds? Tyson would easily win a 4 rounder cause Ali wouldn’t have time to get into his grove and west Tyson down. We all know Tyson does his best work in the earlier round so this question unfairly favours Tyson.

 

That wasn't his prime. His prime ended when he fired Kevin Rooney, his skills gradually degraded after that.