More punches vs Accurate punches

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  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Fighter A: 202/1163 19%
    Fighter B: 225/763 29%



    Fighter A wins 116-112 on all scorecards. Bonus points if you know who the fighters are.
     
  2. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it depends. i would give more weight on power punches rather than potshot jabs with higher percentage.
     
  3. Fights are scored via judging a fighters Ring Generalship, Clean punching, Affective Aggression and Defense. Not punch stats. It also matters more how the punches are applied throughout 12 rounds including KDs and Point Deductions. Either fighter could of won it.

    Looking at the stat though, I wouldn't award Fighter A great affective aggression because he missed a lot of punches and his defense was worse because he took in higher percentage of punches.

    Fighter B landed only a couple less over 12 rounds but had to of shown more generalship and affective aggression to land higher percent punches and possibly better defense for 503 punches to miss him.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    can you break them down into power punches and jab percentages as well? also is this with a different opponent or stats if they fought each other? if for a different opponent, it's hard to judge based on styles of the opponent but if it were stats when they fight each other, the one with the more punches connected usually wins especially if it was distributed in different rounds.
     
  5. antonio8904

    antonio8904 Atheist Full Member

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    i'd like to know what kind of punches we are talking about...jabs? straight rights, lefts, hooks, power shot or pot shots?

    if fighter A landed 100 power shots and figher B landed 50, i'm going with fighter A every time...not to mention there are other factors such as KD's, KO's, ect...

    stat's can be skewed to whatever point you want to prove. just give me the facts, meaning what was more significant...
     
  6. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Obvious is obvious.

    Lets also point out that the fighter thats being punched had won two major KO victories pre-fighter B fight, meanwhile, pre-fighter A he'd arguably LOST two bouts, one against SERGIO MORA.
     
  7. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fighter B, because based solely on the numbers alone, fighter B showed better defense and punch selection...but, as others have stated, there is alot more that goes into scoring a fight than just the total punches landed.
     
  8. Touche

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    how do you get that? :lol: :huh
     
  9. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Well we really can't base a fight solely on stats we have to watch it and I give a big :-( to those who give fights to those with the most missed/non scoring punches throughout the course of the fight.


    Alexander-Kotelnik? Most had Kotelnik winning which he should've. He was the better ring general after the first 4 rounds and landed the better shots.
     
  10. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Simple, Fighter A was hit with everything that was thrown his way (pretty much), whereas Fighter B was not as easily hit, and was able to time/figure out his opponent to the point where most of what he threw landed.
     
  11. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    In most cases I think accuracy trumps amount landed

    i mean if you throw 1000 punches you should land at least 300 hundred right just by volume

    im more impressed by the guy who doesnt have to throw a lot of punches to land a lot of punches

    you can have a guy like fighter B only throw in the 400's to get over 200 landed

    of course power and and ring generalship and knockdowns or deductions come into effect

    contradictions

    if the accurate fighter B only comes on late like Hopkins vs Taylor 2

    if out of the 208 landed 100 are in the last few rounds it means the busy guy won like 5 or 6 rounds and probably wins the whole fight

    examples of output vs accuracy

    Hopkins vs Taylor I, I score for Bernard the accuracy guy

    Valuev vs Haye, I scored for Valuev the output guy, Haye the accuracy guy was accurate and had power but threw to few punches and running around the ring took away ring generalship

    Hopkins vs Taylor II, scored for Taylor the busy fighter, Hopkins was very accurate but like I said above he was accurate but didnt land or come on til late

    Calzaghe vs Hopkins, I scored for Calzaghe the busy fighter, Hopkins the accurate guy just didnt do enough

    Williams vs Wright, I had it for Williams but was not impressed Winky landed at a high volume and blocked many of Williams punches but you just couldnt really give Wright a round cause Williams just smothered him with shots if Wright had power he may have had some rounds on my card
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    oh and I had the accurate Kotelnik win over Alexander
     
  13. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    And where does it show in the stats how many times fighter A or B was punched?

    Or are you suffering the signs of a crack smoking mother?
     
  14. CYoungblood95

    CYoungblood95 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmmmm...I'm assuming the TS is referring to a fight between fighters A and B, no?
     
  15. http://www.secondsout.com/ringside/...ing-professional-boxing-for-the-tv-boxing-fan

    Tom Kaczmarek - Chairman of WBC officials board

    Most of judging a fight is the subjective analysis. Quantity of punches is not the most important thing, the power and quality of the punch matters aswell.