most overrated current fighters

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  1. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    1. there are more top 10 p4p american fighters because there is better competition in America.
    2. That is seriously the dumbest statement ive ever read in the forums. I really hope you are being extremely sarcastic.
    3.Calzaghe is lucky to be rated as high as he is on the p4p list anyway.
     
  2. Orang-Utan Jim

    Orang-Utan Jim Member Full Member

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    No, if calzaghe would be American he wouldn´t have fought not so many bums like Calzaghe did in the UK. He would ´ve fought some real top fighters (Jones, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson...) which I doubt he would´ve beaten. So Calzaghe as an american wouldn´t ranked higher right now, because his record would be 37-3 or so.
     
  3. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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  4. unclepaulie

    unclepaulie Run like an antelope! Full Member

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    I really didnt believe, until i read this post, that Calzaghe was too terribly overrated, but rather had a loyal fanbase. But honestly I have read some flat out wrong and unjustifiable statements in this thread.
    BOTTOM LINE
    Calzaghe never took a belt from anybody until he fought Lacy.
    Calzaghe slaps. I dont care who you are there is no way you can get as much leverage or power behind a slap then you can a hook. Slapping is a very technically unsound technique and puts holes in the Calzaghe is a great boxer argument.
    He has fought nobody. Eubank and Lacy maybe, but Eubank took the fight on less than 2 weeks notice and had to cut weight. Lacy was still very green in after just 21 pro fights, Calzaghe just exposed it. On top of that, he defended the title 20 times against garbage fighters. If he REALLY wanted big name fights he could have gotten them. Also it was the WBO belt. That just speaks for itself.
    Im not sure if Calzaghe is the most overrated fighter on the site, but he certainly is in this thread.
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No,

    no he hasn't.

    In fact the reverse. All the Calzaghe haters (and their number is legion) talked about how he was going to finally be exposed by Lacy. When he won that fight with consumate ease (and that was not his best win), the detractors back-pedaled and allowed that Lacy had been overrated.

    if he beats Kessler, there will be more excuses to denigrate him.

    Prime Roy would have beaten anyone who ever fought at 168. The present version would have little chance with Calzaghe. Prime Hopkins would have made a good fight with Calzaghe (IMO, he would have lost). Present BHop, very little chance.

    Calzaghe is currently one of the top five active boxers. As such, he is NOT over-rated.

    (If you don't believe me, ask China_Hand_Joe. He knows these things, and he will assure you, with unadulterated certitude, that it is simply not possible to overrate Calzaghe ! )
     
  6. nervousxtian

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    Yet Winky still kept that fight close, he was young, in a foreign country, NEVER fought more than an 8rd fight... and it was 1994.

    You gonna hold what happened in 1994... 13 ****ing years ago against him???

    ..and Soliman is nothing like Calzaghe, and I think Wink took Soliman lightly, which was a mistake, but he still beat him.

    He wouldn't take Calzaghe lightly, and again nobody has ever dominated Winky Wright. Vasquez came close to it, but nobody else has.

    Only on the ESB do you see people still trying to take credit away from guys like Winky Wright and Bernard Hopkins.
     
  7. Butch Coolidge

    Butch Coolidge Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Evander Holyfield.

    Beating Jeremy Bates ( who actually landed a hard punch on Commander Vander---no way Bates does this to a prime Holy ), beating Vinny Maddalone and beating Lou Savarese ( who actually landed a heavy punch on Holy too ) do not make me think Holy is the hotshot he used to be. I think if tortoises like Bates and Savarese landed on him a mongoose like Ibragimov is going to tear Holy up.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Soliman's punches are messy like Calzaghes. Winky's defence won't work well at all.

    Jabbing will fail against Calzaghe too.

    Winky has no size or power and as such will be over-whelmed.

    Lets not forget how slow he is getting too.




    But feel free to think Winky would have hope against Calzaghe and embrace the ignorant bliss familiar to so many American and Americanised boxing fans.
     
  9. David UK

    David UK Boxing Addict banned

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    I don't think there's much doubt about that. He's undefeated since he was 17 and has beaten some good fighters;fighters that have never been the same since. It's not Calzaghe's fault that Hopkins blatently ducked him by asking for his purse to be doubled after a verbal agreement was made. Nor is it Calzaghe's fault that Jermain Taylor turned down an offer of £6m. And Jones just wanted to continue on his bum of the month tour. JC can't FORCE these blokes to fight him.Credit to Lacy for at least having the bottle to fight Joe unlike the chicken**** Hopkins and Taylor