Most overrated old-timer?

I dont particularly disagree with any points you have made here.

The point that I will make is that none of the so called super heavyweights apart from Lewis have been what you could consider complete fighters technicaly.

Frankly if Carnera or B, Baer are 70% as good as they are then they would not have much chance against Joe Louis and would be even money against Jack Sharkey on a better day.

 

1. Donovan--you are spinning a nasty conspiracy theory implying that the officials in Louis' fights were not honest and all you have as evidence is that you disagree with a couple of scorecards. You watch a film and disagree with a scorecard and accuse that official of bias. How do you know the man watching the film is not biased? Ringside officials might see punches lost on a film because of the angles. An old one-angle film is not the best way of judging a fight. In the Godoy fight, Donovan's card agreed with the other judge and the card of the New York Times. Was the Times in the tank also? You reprint a lot of Times' articles. Why don't you reprint their report on this fight? Your charges about collusion between the NYSAC, the promoters, and Louis are based on nothing more than off-the-wall conspiracy theory paranoia.

2. What Dempsey did or did not do to Galento in sparring is unimportant. He could not and did not make a comeback. Frankly, Dempsey accomplished enough in the ring to be judged on what he actually did, not on over-the-top speculations.

3. I have seen all 15 rounds of Charles and Louis. Charles certainly moves plenty on the film I watch.

4. All this info on Conn's opponents is useless. Conn wasn't that much of a puncher at heavyweight, but he did ko Pastor, Dorazio, and Barlund, and all were better than anyone Brennan ko'd. Brennan failed to ko Tom Cowler (15 Ko's by), Homer Smith (15 ko's by), Andre Anderson (16 ko's by in only 42 fights), and Bob Devere (5 ko's by in 47 fights). His best KO victims are probably Boer Rodel (13 ko'd by in 63 fights), Soldier Kearns (9 ko'd by in 56 fights) and Bondsman Dick Rice (9 ko'd by in 32 fights). Brennan simply never knocked out a top man at all. Conn did.

 

As a heavyweight Ezzard Charles was kind of overrated, but as a light heavyweight he was the greatest. My great grandfather boxed him in the amateurs and said at light heavy Charles was a brilliant combination of speed & power. I asked him if a Roy Jones could beat Charles. He said Ezzard would cut the ring off against Roy and beat him to a pulp. He said Ezzard's two fisted power was too lethal for Roy.