Muhammad Ali is overrated

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  1. dyna

    dyna Boxing Junkie banned

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    Maybe h2h prime v prime.
    But after his speed got less his defence showed to be pretty weak.

    Greatness is not just prime h2h power, it is also how you are before and after your prime.
     
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  2. wigleyian

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    Speak to John Garfield he'll tell you how it was, trained with Ali, ringside at Frazier...
     
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  3. oibighead

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    Robinson was the best boxer of all time

    Ali is the greatest boxer of all time
     
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  4. dyna

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  5. HerolGee

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    a baseball bat was what he meant?

    and a lot of luck on the night.
     
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  6. ThaWiseJester

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  7. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLA8HIAQEzU[/ame]

    Can you imagine Tyson,Holyfield getting knocked down by some bum?? Only Ali can get away with it because his iconic stature... People wanna say he is a God but he got knocked down by a guy that already had ten knock losses..
     
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  8. McGrain

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    A lot of people think so. The handful of supposed gifts, the opinion of many that he is literally the greatest fighter ever to live, how beloved he is by "casual" fans. I don't think he's overated (#1 at HW, #6 p4p) but I don't think as an idea it's the worst thing i've ever heard.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Yeah.

    [ame]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2927250395207186889[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exrpoc6GP60[/ame]
     
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  10. Don't Sleep

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    He can't
     
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  11. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    John Ruiz is no Chuck Wepner lol
     
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  12. ThaWiseJester

    ThaWiseJester Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ruiz had 3 loses and was a better athlete,Wepner was a guy that had 8 losses and 2 draws,and was out of shape by the time he fought Ali...

    Then not to mention Angelo cheating "cutting his glove" trying to stall time because Ali was still dazed,he could have been finished but cheated enough time to recover..
     
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  13. JeanPaulValley

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    before his prime he was undefeated and after his prime he beat Leon Spinks to win the championship for a third time jack off.
     
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  14. McGrain

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    I'll put it another way -

    I can't imagine John Ruiz knocking down Muhammad Ali.

    Sometimes **** happens.
     
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  15. JeanPaulValley

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    Look pal,I could knock you over with a ****ing feather OK? Wepner was 6'6 and 235 pounds! Any heavyweight can knock over any heavyweight.
    Answer this,did Ali get up and beat the **** out of Wepner? Did Ali win?

    Every great fighter has gotten knocked down. The important thing is getting up and trying to win. How many times did Ali get knocked out in his prime?
    Answer:zero. How many times post prime? Answer:Ali was stopped once ever late in the fight when he had Parkinson disease.
    Now **** Off because that ass just got owned!:deal
     
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