Muhammad Ali vs Jerry Quarry I

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Slowly but surely attaining all available footage of The Onion Farmer. He's not usually the type of fighter I'd go for, but after learning about his circumstances, I got to admire him more. He really improved from his early losses, and he fought and beat the greatest fighters of his time. Underrated combination puncher too from what I've seen.
     
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    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks. Great read!

    I think it also made a difference that Norton's long jab came from underneath, because of his crouch. That seemed to throw Ali off his rhytm.
     
  3. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Folley and Quarry were very different fighters. Folley was a better overall boxer IMO. Folley had good overall skills, decent power and durability. He was athletic with decent speed. He was no bleeder. The only thing they had in common was their size.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Ali had a great first round, a decent second round and was getting tired. He has said on multiple occasions that he was very lucky Quarry was cut so badly so early as there was no waqy he was going to be able to keep the fast pace he opened with ... on top of skill Ali had exceptional luck for a lot of his career and it was visible in this fight ... Quarry at this point against an Ali fresh back from exile and not it proper shape would have given Ali hell as the bout progressed.
     
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    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He also couldn't take a punch, nor did he have much in-fighting ability and he was flat-footed.
     
  6. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ali also deserves kudos for taking on Oscar Bonavena so soon.
     
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    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ali looked good for 3 rounds but he also looked good for the first 3 rounds v frazier. wait til the mid to later rounds when he starts tiring badly, no longer up on his toes but standing flatfooted - that's the 4 year lay-off effect - still thinks he can pace himself like he did before exile - big mistake so he starts laying on the ropes to get a rest. he even admitted after 3 rounds v quarry he was way more tired than he thought he's be.
     
  8. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah. Fighters like Liston,Frazier,Norton,Quarry and Bonavena in his first two fights after exile. Some picking and choosing,eh..? I'm surprised at Futch coming out with that. Ali's resume was second to none. Of course some easy fights are going to be included,but Eddie was talking like Ali was the only one who did this.
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So does your avatar :fire :fire
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He could afford to...he had such an abbreviated workout with Quarry.
     
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    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    No doubt, really dig his left right combination.
     
  12. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed:good. Ali was more concerned with putting on a show hence getting hit, but its a boxing match so if your gonna do what Ali was doing your gonna get hit, although at no stage was he hurt or even troubled. As soon as he decided to get real it was goodnight Zora.

    As for the Quarry fight, i didnt think it told anyone anything about how Ali would fare in his 2nd career as it was over too quick
     
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    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True, but at least he took him on. There were a lot easier fights available to him than Oscar (and quarry too)
     
  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good :good