Muhammad Ali vs. Tyson Fury

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by reznick, Mar 27, 2021.

Who wins?

  1. Tyson Fury

    18.8%
  2. Muhammad Ali

    81.3%
  1. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This has been debated endlessly. You could be right (except you rounded down Liston's height, the opposite of what folks do usually), but having a very wide chest & huge hands means it is possible.
    The longest "ape factors are 11" (wingspan more than height), & one guy is even longer...

    Anyway you can argue who would win either way. But I o not think Fury's greater size would make it near impossible for the quicker more agile Ali to land & move in & out.
    Also Ali adapted very well, even on the fly. He would not at all be married to not going to the body if that made it much easier to score on such a large target. he even went ownstairs in his brief dazzling fight with Williams.
     
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  2. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze No Fairy Tales• banned Full Member

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    Fury has not met a fighter of Ali’s quality by a long shot- Ali however made a career off beating some of the best HWs ever.

    Give Tyson time.
     
  3. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson Fury is overrated, he fights once in a blue moon, one good victory does not make one great Muhammad Ali earned his stripes.
     
  4. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s not just boxrec but I guess all the other sources are wrong too and you are right.
     
  5. KidDynamite

    KidDynamite Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They all copy one another

    You'll find varying reach measurements for boxers all the time

    I've seen a graphic that stated Ali had an 84 inch reach, which is ridiculous

    Ali looked 3 inches taller than Liston which would put Liston at 6 foot, maybe slightly over 6 foot
     
  6. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why don’t you cite a source, other than your opinion, that says Liston’s reach was less than 84 inches since all these other sources are wrong?
     
  7. Indefatigable

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    Don't listen to foolish revisionists. It was 84. History has recorded it and proven it. A lot of folks in this day and age revise history to win arguements. Pathetic.
     
  8. El Gallo Negro

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    Not at all a Fury fan, but it's pretty obvious if Clay were to lay on the ropes and test Furys punches with his jaw like he did for most of his post 1970 career, he would get flattened. Of course the elites would make EVERY excuse in the book for him, and refuse to give Fury any credit for the W...
    Option 2 Clay goes out there and tries to put on a boxing masterpiece....I guess, sure it's possible. Fury is a big target, but if it's against Sugar Hill Fury who actually comes forward, let's his hands go, and leans all over his opponent, I see a very long night for Clay. I have watched all of Clays fight that exist on film. He was special indeed, but I have never seen this untouchable, walks on water fighter everyone claims him to be
     
  9. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury couldn’t hit Ali if he threw a fistful of rice at him. lol at this “Sugar Hill Fury”. In other times, Fury would barely be a contender. Fury is only relevant in these times of mediocre heavyweights.
     
  10. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Why? Is Clay somehow unhittable?
    That's funny cause he ended up with brain damage at a pretty young age.
    Evidently someone was able to hit him. Pretty sure Fury could too.
     
  11. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I assume we are talking about prime Ali and he was damn near unhittable. A stiff like Fury would certainly have problems hitting him. You seem to have a personal problem with Ali. Why is that?
     
  12. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    Why? Because I picked someone to beat him? That equates to having a personal problem now?
    Tell me which fights to watch then of 'prime' Clay that put on display his skills of not being hit.
     
  13. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Check out the Williams and Terrell fights. I don’t have a problem with you picking someone to beat him, even Fury. We are just expressing our opinion here. The fact that you keep calling him “Clay” seems juvenile so I wondered what your problem with him was. There are plenty of reasons to dislike Ali. I was just curious what your reason was.
     
  14. El Gallo Negro

    El Gallo Negro Active Member banned Full Member

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    May be simply because he is rude and self centered and has poor manners. You know, basic civil decency stuff?
    I've never understood why we put him on a pedastle for such behavior, equating it to 'just a strong black man speaking his mind'..... Why don't we ever give Floyd or Broner that same benefit of doubt for their behavior
     
  15. cslb

    cslb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Have you met him before? I met him once and found him to be a decent fellow. As for Mayweather or Broner, the only thing they ever stood for was theirselves and to compare them to Ali is laughable. I was in S.E. Asia in the military from 1968 - 1971 and I have nothing but admiration for Ali for the stance that he took against the war.
     
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