MY GOD clottey was a beast

Bottle job, not a dive.

Same as what Narváez did with Donaire, fighting to survive.

 

He also beat Mudine.

 

I have Allan Green on facebook he said Clottey trained at his gym for the Pacquiao fight and was taking it very seriously. No div just out classed.

 

Clottey is better than Guerrero end of. That ABC logic you have just used is rubbish. Maybe you could argue p4p Guerrero is better but Clottey is better hands down.

 

Clottey dominated Baldomir got DQ'd, dominated Corrales, dominated Judah, in many people's opinions including Manny Steward at ringside beat Cotto, was beating Margarito until he got an injury, he also dominated Mudine.

 

I dont recall Guerrero vs Clottey so I fail to see what you base your instantiated facts on. When and if they fight each other then we may no who the better fighter is....ya think?

 

Desperation from a Pac fan. I wonder why.

 

He was rather boring if you ask me

 

I thought Cotto won more rounds but Clottey actually looked like the winner. He won his rounds better.

 

You really believe this? I think he took a dive. Such a bull**** performance. He messed up Pac's face with a few good shots, I just can't understand why he fought like that. He didn't seem like the type to be scared.

 

Yeah, which looks nice on paper (especially with Mundine coming off a "TKO" of Shane Mosley, and going on to pop the cherry of mildly hyped Sergey Rabchenko... although Mosley was in no condition to be sanctioned with his spine made of peanut-brittle, while Rabchenko proved to be not half what many of us pegged him as) - but in reality Mundine's last victory over a legitimate world class opponent in their prime was Geale I, five years ago. (and before that Kim & Soliman III in 2008)

Beating the brakes off a 38 year old Mundine at 154lbs in 2014 is a decent W, but I'd hesitate to put it higher than even a hard-fought MD over unbeaten Gutierrez at welter in 2006.

 

Not a dive in that he didn't go down and stay down from a weak punch. Clottey definitely threw the fight though. And lets not forget a drunk Jerry Jones saying he was giving Clottey an extra million for the good effort.

 

I didn't say he fought scared, but rather to survive.

Bear in mind, Pacquiao was coming directly off the run of DLH, Hatton and Cotto. In all three he was an underdog. In all three he was supposed to be too small, and in all three he recorded stoppages. I don't know that scared is the right word, but overly cautious and reluctant to engage lest he become the fourth straight big man to be embarrassingly stopped (whether by the accumulated facial damage or what have you) at the hands of the overwhelmingly fast erstwhile flyweight.

He fought to lose a decision (and maybe score a Hail Mary lucky punch KO, if he was fortunate enough to connect the few times he opened up, but if that never came he wasn't going to be too upset about it, since he was getting a career payday no matter what). His priority was to not become the next in line after DLH, Hatton, and Cotto. Ironically, he wanted to avoid the shame of being stopped by the little man like they all did - but ended up shaming himself worse than all three combined. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

If both retired today and never fought again:

Robert Guerrero's career >>>>> Joshua Clottey's career... and I don't find that to be all too debatable.