My P4P.

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it is not a bad list, JC at 6, one can argue about that, but is still fair (it depends on his fight with Hopkins how much will he go up)

 

unbeatable_floyd asked me to say on his behalf that you're ranking Floyd too low. :roll:

 

This should be a sticky. :good

 

Joan Guzman "one of the most gifted fighters ever" atsch

 

sorry mate but im NOT wrong

Dariuz(the former lineal lightheavyweight champion) was beaten by Julio Gonzalez who was beaten by Erdei= lineal champion

the ring belt is not the lineal championship merely a reflection upon whom the general public considers to the best fighter in that weight division at a certain time

so Hopkins in actual fact has **** all claim to the division really

 

Agreed, that was quite the barrage by Pavlik. Hope he shores up the defense, don't know how many fights he can keep taking those clean shots being in championship competition now. He's a bright guy, surrounded by a good crew and I imagine defensive improvements are a big part of his training/development these days.

 

I put Winky above Hopkins because I think he is a better P4P fighter. Winky's natural weight is 154lbs, Hopkins natural weight is 175lbs. Hopkins admits this much. The fact that Hopkins beat him at 170 doesn't mean he is better, it means he was able to beat a fat, out of shape Winky Wright.

With Pavlik. Again I'm thinking P4P and he has been fighting smaller men, and basically using that advantage to win. Look I love the guy, think he's a great fighter but you have to take his size into account when doing a P4P rating. He is huge for his weight class.

I honestly don't think JMM is too high. But I understand how subjective these lists are and I'm not gonna argue with you about it.

I don't think a "loss" should necessarily drop a fighter. Look objectively at the fight in which the guy lost and then decide whether you think he is really a lesser fighter then you previously thought. Or else its a pointless list and you are just dropping guys down on principle but with every intention of moving them right back up if they happen to get a win again. Mosley proved he was just as good as Cotto in that fight...there is no LOGICAL reason he shouldn't be on that list except for "well that is what normally happens after a loss" :deal

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Pac won round 1...But then a pissed off JMM disciplined his student for 11 rounds:
Pac->:vonnecunt <-JMM

 

if WW is a blown up jnr middle then Hopkins is a blown up middleweight

 

yeah ryt............. 1-d pac using only his right hand after the first round

let me see your face here after the second fight :good
pac will have no more injuries. pac will assrape jmm trust me :deal