Helenius won a SD over Chisora. Many felt he lost, but he did OK for a guy fighting with a badly injured shoulder that required surgery. Even Chisora said Helenius almost knocked him out in round one.
you do reliese apart from hi power he has nothing to offer..not even a decent jab.and if his injury indeed was like vitalis he will never be the same again when your rotator cuff goes thats it if you cannot adapt a new style..helenius is **** and dosnt deserve to be on your list..fs the white wolf made him look like a bum up untill he gassed:good
no point in arguing with the poles though, adamek's their hero it's impossible to tell them anything relating to him, they don't hear it. They think Adamek is a HOF fighter lol
I recorded this on Saturday night only to come home and find out the prelims took two hours and the recording ended before the main event. Is it worth watching on youtube?
If you like watching a fighter with 1 arm make a fully healthy fighter look like **** through slickness and great counterpuching then **** yeah. If you're a big Adamek fan you might wanna avoid this like the plague as you'll be beyond disappointed at his inability to land a clean punch vs a one armed fighter and his atrocious 13% connect rate. If you like seeing someone throw a million sloppy ass punches and gloves/air then this fight is for you.
chmabers did much better vs Wlad then Adamek did with Wlads inferior older brother..... Even if your dumb enough to score missed punches and award the decision to Adamek you can't be dumb enough to realize that a 2 handed Chambers would have easily won and made Adamek look even more amateur than he did on Sat!!! 13% connect rate is laughable for a high level pro fight, in over 15 years of watching boxing religiously I've never seen a fighter win with such a low percentage!!! On top of that Chambers not only landed at higher than 50% better than Adamek but he landed more!!
Exactly. Haye has zero technical ability and has done nothing at HW to even be ranked in the top 10. He was gifted a championship for landing less than 10 punches each round. ****ing disgraceful. The only close fights for Haye on my list are Chisora or maybe Arreola. Everyone else embarrasses him. Chisora has nothing to offer Chambers, Povetkin, Adamek who are all MUCH too technical and experienced for him. Helenius (with two good arms) beats his ass severely. Chisora vs Arreola would be good, but I'd still favor Arreola because he's got technical ability and Chisora is limited there. Sure, he's no technical wizard. However, technique can be learned. What he does have going for him is that he's a big strong guy with a decent 1+2 and he's a solid finisher. His conditioning is holding him back IMO. Boytsov hasn't done anything in years. Chagaev's health has him operating at about 75% of his previous ability (not good enough to beat anyone on my list). Thompson has a better resume, style and skill than anyone you mentioned. When Pulev proves himself a bit more I do suspect he will be on everyone's list. Like I said, Helenius was gifted a bull**** decision over Chisora. However, he did have a serious shoulder injury throughout that fight and still managed to survive Chisora...which I think proves that Chisora isn't the beast everyone makes him out to be. If Haye steps up and wins some fights over rated competition, I'll put him on the list. So far he's done nothing but lose, run his mouth and fight bull**** fights. He can talk his way into a lot of things, buy my rankings isn't one of them. Povetkin, Chambers, Thompson all whip his ass. If Haye gets past Chisora he needs to fight someone like Fury or Arreola to show he's not a total ****.
Although Chambers has let winnable fights get away through inactivity (see povetkin fight), i can't see criticizing him for that in Saturday's fight. Assuming the injury was legit (nothing saying otherwise yet and he did only throw 1 left by my count after the alleged injury), i'm pretty sure it's difficult to win over an entire fight (as opposed to say protecting a big lead) with one arm. i mean unless you're fighting a complete novice it's hard to consistently land when the other guy knows its only coming from one side. i think the showboating was just eddie's compensation for the fact that he could only do so much with the right and he wanted to make it clear that adamek was barely landing on him with two hands. agreed that either adamek or chambers being rated top 5 or so is testament to the weakness of the division, but i'll rate chambers higher than adamek b/c i know it would've been a thorough win for em but for going one handed
Haye doesn't have any technical ability. He has no jab to speak of. He has no sense of balance whatsoever. He can't use footwork to cutoff the ring. Because of that, he can't stand in the middle of the ring and work angles, land combinations and box. He's a one punch slugger with quick hands. A one trick pony whose only chance of beating an experienced technical fighter is to land a single punch KO. Chambers can be KO'ed with a single punch, as Wlad showed us, however he has great handspeed, head movement and defense, as he showed us vs. Adamek. Chambers vs. Haye, IMO is about a 80/20 in favor of Chambers getting a decision. Probably closer to 90/10, but its boxing and anything can happen. Haye vs. Adamek I'd say Haye has even less of a chance of winning because Adamek has a head like an anvil and enough experience to pressure Haye, cut off the ring and land at a higher percentage than Haye. Well, unless they fight in the UK, then Haye may get another gift decision..