Yes, at 147 he is beatable. But if everyone was the same size, I am not buying Mijares or Calzaghe beating him.
Impeccable. :good This is what I prefer to vague p4p formulas that incorporate both talent and accomplishment. Who's the best all-around regardless of weight class - that's a relevant and interesting conversation. Inclusion of accomplishments (and penalization of extremely talented fighters who for one reason or another haven't had opportunity to have many marqiuee fights) and the exaggerated focus on big names ruins the whole concept of p4p rankings for me.
Yeah, he'd beat Calzaghe if they were the same weight, however, Calzaghe would also beat more fighters than he would if they were all the same weight, so I have to rank Calzaghe higher. Mijares is an awful style for Mayweather, and again, he beats more guys that would give Mayweather serious trouble or beat him.
This is fighters in boxing currently. As far as I know Amsterdam recognizes that both Winky and Bernard had great days in the past, but have lost virtually all of the tools that made them great in the first place. Neither has fought at a weight really suited to them, or fought a young, great fighter in a long time (don't bring up Taylor, please).
Winky is still barely in my top 25 under this format, Hopkins isn't even in my top 50 under this format.
I like your list. I think you are over rating Calderon though, and under rating Dawson. Certainly over rating Mijares. Still a very solid list mate. Great to see I am not the only one who believes Pac to be over rated. Mayweather also has shown vunerability more so then most here seem to believe.
Nice list Amsterdam. If I was forced to use the same fighters you did and rank them, it would look something like... 1. Floyd Mayweather, Jr. 2. Joe Calzaghe 3. Cristian Mijares 4. Miguel Cotto 5. Joan Guzman 6. Manny Pacquiao 7. Chad Dawson 8. Ivan Calderon 9. Mikkel Kessler 10. Juan Diaz
Kessler is clearly out of place (no surprise there). Other than that Guzman is too high, and Calzaghe does not belong above Floyd. Floyd may be above his natural weight but Joe is getting old and has lost his A-game as well.
My List: My top four are all unsplittable IMO which are: Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, Chad Dawson and Joe Calzaghe. 5. Juan Diaz, 6-7 are also unsplittable for me: Manny Pac and Joan Guzman. 8. Shane Mosely. 9. Mikkel Kessler. 10. Paul Williams * Honorable Mention to Mijares, Calderon, Marquez. I don't believe the lower weights have the save level of talent though as welter or super middle.
Let me fix this for you. 1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. 2. Bernard Hopkins(**** all you guys, B-Hop stays high on my list) 3. Ivan Calderon 4. Chad Dawson 5. Miguel Cotto 6. Joe Calzaghe 7. JMM 8. Rafael Marquez 9. Joan Guzman 10. Anthony Peterson (you'll all agree with me in due time) Please keep that overhyped, one hit wonder Mijares away from any p4p list. He's a joke, plain and simple. I guarentee he gets knocked the **** out within his next 3 fights(In actuality, I really like this kid. Amstedam hypes him up too much though).