My top 10 Heavyweights

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Sweet Science, Jun 22, 2007.


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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What "standard definitiions" have I changed Hank? You've accused me of this and i've explained it - what standard definitions?

    Again, I think you're failing to understand the point you are trying to explain. Prior. Prior to winning the championship. I have no idea what you are trying to prove with this quote - that you may be wrong?

    :lol:


    There is no point in discussing Baer with you. I've heard you describe him as a "bum" and as a "clown" and "utterly unskilled". In this area you are deficient in your understanding to an extent where it's almost impossible to engage you.

    This is also whey nowhere in this argument have I raised any fights Braddock won - even the Baer fight itself - because I know what your response will be. To paraphrase - "he was rubbish". Braddock was a very brave fighter who was handed an earned chance and took it. According to Baer he took the fight seriously. Also according to Baer he hurt his deadly right hand in the fight - though, gentleman that he is (and possibly accuratley) he suggested he would have lost it anyway.

    Your entire argument hangs on world title challengers and actual champioins being bums and useless. It actually makes me dizzy trying to understand the roof of your arrogance.

    If I had a time machine I would go back and waste less time asking you to clarify your muddy points in this thread (including an unpleasant racial one), you've answered less than half of them.
     
    McGrain, Jun 29, 2007
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think that either of them can be considered journeymen.

    They both got to the top of the rankings by beating other ranked contenders. Therfore they were world class fighters of the period.
     
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  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Your very confident for a new poster who has never posted here before ever...

    I like the head to heads. It's fun.
     
    McGrain, Jun 29, 2007
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's right.
     
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  5. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Prime Frazier.... :hi:

    :D
     
    Holmes' Jab, Jun 29, 2007
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  6. mr. magoo

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    He's new to the concept of posting under a different name.
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
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  8. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Jack Johnson
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Sonny Liston
    6. George Foreman
    7. Lennox Lewis
    8. Joe Frazier
    9. Jack Dempsey
    10. Evander Holyfield
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    This list is straight out of the top drawer in my view.

    No Tyson? He just broke into mine at #10.

    No Foreman? He just dipped out of mine at #11/

    And where do you rate Jeffreis? I'm interested in Johnson but no Jeffries.
     
    McGrain, Jul 1, 2007
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  10. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    No order, but here are the guys in my top 10

    Joe Louis
    Muhammad Ali
    Larry Holmes
    Jack Dempsey
    Jack Johnson
    Rocky Marciano
    George Foreman
    Lennox Lewis
    Evander Holyfield
    Joe Frazier

    Here are the honorable mentions
    Sonny Liston
    James Jeffries
    Mike Tyson
    Ezzard Charles
    Gene Tunney
    Jersey Joe Walcott
    John L. Sullivan
    James Corbett
    Harry Wills
    Max Schmeling
    Sam Langford
    Bob Fitzsimmons
    Max Baer
     
    brooklyn1550, Jul 1, 2007
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  11. Muchmoore

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    Very good list but Tyson should be in there if you have Liston there and Johnson should go down to the bottom half of the top ten.
     
    Muchmoore, Jul 1, 2007
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  12. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i have Jeffries in 12th

    i put forman in becauce George beat badly every fighter of the Golden age, with the exception of Ali. George destroyed Frazier and Norton 1x by KO. Ali lost to Norton and struggled with Joe losing once. George came back in the 90's ( another great generation of fighting) and won the heavyweight championship at 45,

    i have not got tyson in becuse i dont feel he even beat anyone great larry holmes was past it Tony Tucker, Michael Spinks and Frank Bruno were good but never really great his lost to Douglas was embarrassing for him he also quit against Holyfield
     
    hopkinsfan07, Jul 1, 2007
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  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I have Tyson in on the head to head - hard to score him at less than a 40% against any fighter except Ali, who I think would do him.

    Totally missed Foreman on your list, don't know why!

    Anyway, nice one.
     
    McGrain, Jul 1, 2007
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  14. hopkinsfan07

    hopkinsfan07 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what is your top ten anyway McGrain
     
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  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well, you'd actually find it earlier in this thread, but as you ask (any excuse)

    1) Ali
    2) Louis
    3) Liston
    4) Johnson
    5) Lewis
    6) Jeffries
    7) Frazier
    8) Holmes
    9) Hollyfield
    10) Tyson
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    11) Foreman
    12) Dempsey
    13) Marciano

    I do have a habit of changing things around.

    Nice avatar man.
     
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