My Top 40 P4P List

No worries, I wouldnt be able to do one accurately myself, so fair play for at least doing one and taking the abuse that comes with it. Once you have Mayweather first you're bound to get **** on ESB. Cotto's placing was just the first thing that came to mind for me. If I made one I'd probably be picking holes in it in about five minutes, nevermind what other people would say.

 

How is Anadin Andrea higher than Carl Froch when Froch beat him?

 

**** list :nut

 

Yeah I was only in jest with the tone of my earlier post, as I hope you could tell.

Its a fact on ESB that if you put up your opinion on anything, there will be those that agree and those that disagree (sometimes vehemently). Pound for pound lists are almost always individual takes, no-one's will be exactly the same as yours, so naturally there will be more criticism than agreement.

The reason I mentioned your placement of Gonzalez is because I felt that, having beaten the previously thought of number one at his weight, Niida, then with wins over Takayama and moving up and easily beating Rosas in a rematch, he appears to have done more than some of those further up. If you haven't watched it yet, youtube his win over Niida, overwhelmed a very well thought of fighter quite early!

Anyways kudos for putting it up as jpab said :good, I may follow suit and stick mine up here at some point, I only have top 25 now though.

 

Yeah seriously guys, it's not easy coming up with a top 40 list. I can barely do a top 10 without hearing crap. How about you guys post another list and see if it's better

 

He has actually put 2 guys Froch has beaten above him,also Pascal...This is a guy who has only lost one close fight in his whole career and has fought at a higher level of comp in his last few fights than probably anyone else in boxing. :nut

 

no way Mayweather is #1

 

For sake of discussion, theres my 25 at the moment. Updated it fairly recently. Feel free to nit-pick away...

01. Manny Pacquiao
02. Sergio Martinez
03. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
04. Juan Manuel Marquez
05. Jean Pascal
06. Nonito Donaire
07. Fernando Montiel
08. Juan Manuel Lopez
09. Wladimir Klitschko
10. Miguel Cotto
11. Giovanni Segura
12. Roman Gonzalez
13. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
14. Paul Williams
15. David Haye
16. Timothy Bradley
17. Tomasz Adamek
18. Chad Dawson
19. Andre Ward
20. Celestino Caballero
21. Ivan Calderon
22. Lucian Bute
23. Vic Darchinyan
24. Nkosinathi Joyi
25. Anselmo Moreno

 

Doesn't matter who beat who, it is what the fighter is as of CURRENTLY, thats what counts.

David got his ass kicked by Thompson, should Thompson be considered higher p4p than David?

of course not, cause a fighter learns more about the sport from a loss than from a win. But than again, a P4P list is NOTHING but imagination for the public. Both Haye and Adamek accomplished real good things since their losses, but what my point is, I fail to see how Haye is in better standing than Adamek.

Of course its odd. Everyone has a right to a opinion, and obviously mine is different than others. Hands down tho, Wladimir Klitschko is the BEST boxer on the planet. For the shear fact that:

1. He hasn't lost a round in the ring since the first Sam Peter fight in 2005.

2. He currently owns the ranks, and has control of the highest, and the most prestigious division in boxing, the Heavyweight division.

Nobody can **** with the best HW boxer. You can get Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Jr, or even prime Hagler, Hearns, or Jones Jr.....they would all get their asses kicked by today's Wlad Klitschko. That to me, is considered to be p4p BEST. To be able to beat ANYONE in boxing....which Wlad certainly could....and would, weather he is a Heavyweight or a Flyweight. The Heavyweight Division, is the KING Division.

and also for argument sake, the other brother hasn't lost a round since the Sanders fight.

These guys, in my opinion(and thats what p4p lists are about, opinion), the brothers are the best boxers in the world.

I put Pacquiao at 2 cause his accomplishments are worthy of that ranking, whilst Vitali would be the number 2 if it wasn't for that 4 year layoff.

 

You have Timothy "come break down this wall baby" Bradley at number 6, number ****ing 6, way ahead of Vitali, Haye, Abraham, Froch, Kessler, Gamboa, Cotto??

I think this list is what you prepared when someone with no boxing knowledge asked you to name 40 boxers.

 

He had a point about Cotto earlier and because of that I'd rank him lower. Pascal should be rated lower than that imo and I think Bradley could be higher also, but other than that, it's ok. I'd have Mayweather 1 or 2, but a lot of people make their list based on activity

 

I knew the Pascal rating might be cause a disagreement or two, and I understand why so.

I feel the fact he is at his second weight class, and dominating naturally slightly bigger guys helps. Add in his double over the formerly undefeated Diaconu, and the impressive win over fellow p4p'er Dawson, and that leads to his high rating on my list.

But like I say, disagreement is expected and I understand why someone would have him much lower than I do!

Cotto for me is there almost by default. With defeats recently for Mosley, Dawson, Williams, the decline of Hopkins; a lot of space has opened up for the top 10 and thats how Cotto keeps himself there by a thread on his reputation. His recent form isnt stellar, but the win over Foreman was a typical Cotto breakdown, at an unnaturally high weightclass, so that along with aforementioned falls for other top 10'ers = Cotto at 10th.

Like you mentioned, Martinez at 2 for me is mainly due almost to his commitment to the sport at this time. He has nowhere near the depth of resume of Mayweather, but has far surpassed him in recent achievements, in doing so beating naturally far bigger men of good repute with great ease.

Just explaining so no-one thinks I'm an idiot, hopefully it makes sense, but I appreciate there will be disagreements :good