My Top 50 All Time Heavyweights

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  1. SorceryatCaesar

    SorceryatCaesar Leonard-Hagler author Full Member

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    no way mike weaver is behind jimmy young and jack sharkey.

    weaver nearly beat holmes in 79.
     
    SorceryatCaesar, Aug 6, 2008
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  2. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well, it did appear you were actually taking my personal writing word-for-word in spots there, and I didn't actually see the attribution, but I wasn't being terribly serious. Not as though that was Pulitzer-prize-worthy material on my part anyway, and of course it is a public internet forum. Don't worry about it- it's good the information is getting out there.
     
    Marciano Frazier, Aug 14, 2008
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  3. Muchmoore

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    Weaver also has quite a few losses and isn't nearly as high head to head as Young.
     
    Muchmoore, Aug 14, 2008
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  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Hey MF,

    check your pms
     
    SuzieQ49, Aug 14, 2008
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Prety solid list generaly.

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    Some names that I think should have made the cut or been strongly considered:

    Frank Slavin

    Joe Choynski

    Tom Sharkey

    Billy Miske

    Harry Greb

    Tommy Loughran

    Primo Carnera
     
    janitor, Aug 14, 2008
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  6. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    What exactly do you mean by this, unusual picks that you don't agree with, or strange picks that you like?
     
    Muchmoore, Aug 14, 2008
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Unusual picks that I agree with.
     
    janitor, Aug 14, 2008
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  8. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    It was a generally solid list. Langford is definitely too low, I'd have Corbett an bit higher too as I think he was a fine fighter and certainly enriched the sport when he emerged with his progressive style. Sharkey maybe a bit higher too: as things go he was very formidable on his best night, possesed very good physical attributes. Where he lacked was that he too often wasn't a thinking fighter as such. Wlad too high also?!
     
    Holmes' Jab, Aug 14, 2008
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  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    janitor, i think denver ed martin deserves to be rated higher than many of those white midgets you listed.
     
    SuzieQ49, Aug 14, 2008
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  10. Muchmoore

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    Wlad head to head is hell to boxers. Elite punchers, swarmers etc with heavy hands and fast hands blast Wlad out. But if you don't have power, it's going to be a hard fight against Klitschko, he has a long, hard possibly ATG jab, a crushing right hand, and a left hook which when used is impressive. Trying to outpoint someone with his reach, height, jab is a very hard thing to try to do, it takes a real top echelon boxer to do it (Ali, Holmes, Lewis)

    Resume wise he is clearly the best fighter of the past 4, 5 years and while it is one of the weakest eras of all time, Brock, Peter, Ibragimov are all solid fighters who he beat. He has a good number of wins over ranked contenders. This warrants his current spot but if he beats Povetkin, and beats whoever the WBA champ is at the time it moves him into the top 25 and maybe top 20 depending on how he looks doing it.
     
    Muchmoore, Aug 14, 2008
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