My Updated P4P List, Top 35

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  1. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Why is Kessler so low?
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Has not fought anyone worth a damn since Calzaghe which was a loss. He is top ten material, but needs a big fight to get there!
     
  3. thespecialone

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    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Miguel Cotto
    6. Israel Vasquez
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ricky Hatton
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Vic Darchinyan
    11. Celestino Caballero
    12. Juan Manuel Lopez
    13. Nonito Donaire
    14. Kelly Pavlik
    15. Wladimir Klitschko
    16. Vitaly Klitschko
    17. Arthur Abraham
    18. David Haye
    19. Tomasz Adamek
    20. Chad Dawson

    Theres a few people on my top 20 that could move but im waiting to judge on their next fight.
     
  4. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty much spot on IMO.
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You don't even have Paul Williams on the list!


    FAIL!:dead
     
  6. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Sure Buckwheat, sure!:lol:
     
  7. yesihavearm2

    yesihavearm2 ESB Chinchecker Full Member

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    Didnt even have Paul Williams in the list, had Pac ahead of Hopkins and Marquez :patsch
     
  8. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    well at least he has the top three right:deal
     

  9. Well Paul Williams is not a top 5 p4p fighter also
     
  10. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can someone make a good case to me why Williams should be higher than Hatton? Hatton resume and achievements just seem so much better than Wiliam's.
     
  11. thespecialone

    thespecialone Active Member Full Member

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    Ok fair enough i forgot Paul Williams, hes majorly getting overhyped because of his victory against Winky! To be fair Winky hasnt fought in a couple of years and is getting old nowadays!

    As for Pac i assume when Joe Calzaghe was still fighting he was your number one then? At the end of the day Pac beat Marquez twice therefore hes above him for me that could all change May 2nd though. As for Hopkins what has he done more than Pac to deserve to be above him, yes Hopkins is very good but Pacman hasnt done anything wrong in a longtime whilst jumping divisions winning consistently.
     
  12. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    winning against JUan Diaz suddenly makes you number 1? Infact Campbell won more convincingly than JMM against Diaz i terms of dominance or totaL rounds won. Up to the KO, the scorecards were almost even.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins disagrees with you, he rates Pac over JMM & himself. I think Hopkins is a better judge of his own ability :lol:

    Besides, apart from the usual pac haters, yourself, nallege, possibly finito, jeff m and some n00bs, give me these names that has Hopkins over Pac. Give me some major websites & publications that has Hopkins over Pac.

    How dooes one know he is a hater? When he disagrees with Hopkins himself and says Hopkins is above Pac! :lol:
     
  14. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I guess winning fights head to head have no meaning, or no bearing in a talk of p4p lists...Which only goes to show how worthless that most peoples list.

    Not only did Dawson beat Adamek. he totally outclassed him..

    Donaire beat up and knocked out Vic.

    The only one I could give you a past on is Shane and Cotto, that was a close fight that could have gone either way...

    Now dont give me that what has he done since grabage, cuz Adamek hasnt done anything that was more impressive then what Dawson did. In fact I would bet money that the guys that Dawson beat since that fight would beat the guys that Adamek has fought since that fight.
     

  15. But you could argue that even though Vic and Adamek have lost to Donaire and Dawson.... both Vic and Adamek have gone on to better things... Adamek is now the man at CW and Vic is the undisputed Jr Bantanweight champ