My view on Mikey vs Loma has changed.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ellerbe, Dec 11, 2018.


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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree that Loma's defense is better than Pac's, but his offense is not better than Floyd's. Throwing more punches doesn't = better offense. In that case Brandon Rios has better offense than Floyd.
     
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    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you need to debate with the gossip queens around here, i dont make up failed drug tests to make any of my points.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    What makes you think that Mikey all so much better than Pedraza and Linares? Especially at 135? Mikey is not special, and I've never seen him as such, his resume leaves a lot to be desired. Who says Tank wouldn't wreck Mikey at 130? After all, the only half decent people Mikey beat down there were Martinez, Salido and half dead Juanma. Mikey is overrated as ****.
     
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  4. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I don’t feel Loma is in any trouble at all watching both Linares and Pedraza fight.
    I think he is being critise trying to knock out an opponent being not a so called puncher and slightly outsized.
    Both Linares and pedraza won maximum of 3 rounds a piece. A case can be made they won only 1 round.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I'm too tired to look it up, but I could probably find some if I tried.
     
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  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mikey is very fundamentally sound. One thing I will say is that he's not as fast as Linares. Linares had arguably speed, but definitely power and size over Loma. Mikey will have size and a power advantage.

    I think Linares would give Mikey issues, but I think he'd stop Pedraza. Don't you give him credit for beating Broner and Easter too? I give Mikey a far better shot at beating Loma than Tank. It's hard to give someone the same size or smaller than Loma a chance since he's proven that he dominates that caliber of opposition. I think GRJ is levels above Pedraza p4p but Pedraza clearly did better.
     
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  7. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Mikey hasn’t fought a legitimate opponent since Salido. There’s a reason for that. Mikey ducked Linares and Lomachenko at 135. Mikey hasn’t fought anyone anywhere near the level of Linares or Pedraza at 135. And you think that means that Mikey would win? Okay.
     
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  8. Cafe

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    Who claimed Pedraza is a great win? I think it's an underappreciated win if anything. It's a tune up fight and Loma is getting criticized across the board for looking human and not blowing out the guy in 5 rounds.
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    lmao! the only reason salido made the cut is because he pushed lomas chit in. mikey made him look like he was drunk.
     
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  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    are you reading all the posts? read em again and see if that needs asking.
     
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  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I've read plenty of posts and it's been either people shitting on Loma or people defending him with the injury, he's too small etc. I've seen few posts where peopled looked at the fight in isolation without some fanboy or hater bias aspect to it.
     
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  12. Aleks!

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    Nobody should care about any partisan, bigoted opinions you hold when an E.E./C.A. boxer is involved. Such transparency and hyperbole trying to convince the masses of your righteousness bathed in condescending indignatiioon. I sued to find you mildly amusing but that initial impression has devolved into full blown tragic.
     
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  13. Aleks!

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    Lomachenko's shoulder is fine, I saw videos of him blasting the heavy bag with it repeatedly during camp and Pedraza basically took that punch away from him during the fight which would explain why the upper cut was used for often.

    Everyone should save their energy for Loma's next fight when he defends against his mandatory Crolla.
     
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  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's not getting criticized by me. I'm just saying that weight is clearly an issue. Do you disagree? I don't rate Pedraza over GRJ, or even Walters, and we know how those fights played out.
     
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  15. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    ? I'm just stating the obvious. Loma's peak is at 135, and possibly at 140 since the comp is weak. If 140 had talent like 147, there's no way he could even consider that weight class. This doesn't mean Loma isn't a terrific fighter, we just have too high expectations for him because of his brilliant performances, and past greats doing it.
     
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