New weight category in boxing ?

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  1. McGuinty

    McGuinty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont think weight classes are the problem, it's the amount of belts that bother me.
     
  2. Jolly Roger

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  3. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    This. Get down to 10 ffs
     
  4. irishny

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    How about heavyweight? Where guys can be 40-50 lbs heavier than each other
     
  5. BENNY BLANCO

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    This doesn't surprise me at all, as soon as I saw the thread title I already knew the possibly new weight division was going to be a division in between light heavyweight and cruiserweight.
     
  6. gregor

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    I do not see much sense in it (apart from sanctioning fees). Where do they want to put new border between HW and CW (or whatever it would be named)?

    The problem is that wherever you'd put it, it doesn't make things any better. If you put it at 220, there would be no change at all... all blown-up cruiserweights are there simply because of lack of dehydrating at HW. If you put it at 240... just look at last ten of Klitschkos' opponent, the majority would still do it because they were old and fat.

    At best you would get a new division with Adamek fighting Chambers for its title... wait, did not it happend already in HW?
     
  7. Elliot

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    To be honest I don't support more weight classes, but I don't think the current set up is very fair in the higher weights, I think 220+ should be super heavyweight and there should be a class at 185. Either reduce the classes by making the gap in between each bigger or increase the amount.

    Actually **** it, lets have a weight class for every lb.
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Jesus, hell NO! You know they mainly do this to make more $$$, right? As fans we should demand less or back how it used to be not more! More divisions also means less megafights among the elite.
     
  9. PivotPunch

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    :deal it's just for the money
     
  10. Imperial1

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    ^ This
     
  11. Box84

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    I hope you will pleased to find out that is not true. Weight classes are the maximum weight a fighter can weigh in at. There is no minimum (within reason). I doubt we would see a 105 lbs fighter at heavyweight but someone could choose to fight there at 180 lbs+ no problem.
     
  12. Squire

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    In the case of guys being 40-50 lbs heavier and in shape at the same time, it's more a reason for guys not moving up from cruiserweight. There are far too many fighters who move up. In modern boxing I don't think there should be any guys going into the ring between 200-210lbs in the HW division, unless they are ATG level fighters- of which Haye, Adamek, Cunningham, Mormeck and Huck aren't. If they can fight at 201-210lbs they can boil down to 200 and be a top cruiser

    If you choose to fight at heavyweight you should be a natural heavyweight. If not, fight in a lower weight class. I believe the CW>HW jump should be seen as different to MW>SMW or LWW>WW.

    Anyway. I've made it clear I think pro boxing should use amateur weight classes. That way there are fewer titles and more stable divisions where everybody isn't jumping up in weight every two or three fights. Talent is more concentrated and the sport wins. Imagine weight classes every 5 lbs all the way up to 250? Boxing wouldn't even be worth watching any more
     
  13. BENNY BLANCO

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    The dumbest thing about this possible new weight class is that the original cruiserweight max of 190 pounds was suppose to be the purpose for guys between 175 and heavyweight, if they had never up the cruiserweight max to 200 pounds then this wouldn't even be an issue.
     
  14. FelixTrinidad

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    Long post, except that you forgot this era is ****ing **** at HW.
    You talking about ATGS? There's only one ATG and his name is Wladimir.

    David Haye at 217 could beat every HW outside of Wlad and maybe a old Vitali. It's just that he's so god damn lazy.

    You honestly think a 250 Pound Arreloa will beat a 217 David Haye?

    What you say will make sense if this era consisted of
    Wladimir-Lewis-Bowe-Young Foreman-etc and a few others. Anybody can
    succeed at heavyweight now. With K2 retiring, it will not be a shock at all to see a 215 pound guy win a belt.
     
  15. kirk

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    The fact that these sanctioning bodies hold so much power is one of the things that need to change.... not the number of weightclasses.

    If they think boxing needs more weightclasses they dont know their ass from a hole in the ground.

    Leave it the way it is.... most of the small guys at heavyweight who cant compete because they really are too small could make cruiser if they wanted to. They are at heavyweight because thats where the money is.

    Putting in a new weightclass will just mean the guys from the lower weightclasses will once again try to flood the heavyweights looking for money or glory, and we would have the same problem all over again.

    Thinking weightclasses solves this is ignoring why there is a problem in the first place.

    Chambers, Adamek, Haye, Byrd, ect.... all these guys could have fought at cruiser, and fought at heavyweight by choice.

    Not to mention that these guys have actually proved, with their success, that small heavies can compete in todays division.