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I'm not butthurt or whatever infantile remark you were trying to convey. I'm actually a fan of both fighters, but since I follow the sport and listen to all parties involved, Golovkin's team has been consistent for 3 years now about wanting to unify the division before thinking about moving up.

He made mention several times before the Khan fight that he's not chasing Canelo but chasing the WBC title.

SO now that's he been thrusted to full WBC champion, why would he want to fight a guy who isn't even campaigning at the full 160 lbs without any titles to his name? I thought their major objective was to unify the division. How does fighting Canelo Alvarez get them to that culminating point they've been trying to get to for years?

I'm not defending Canelo or GBP or anyone. I'm looking at things from a neutral perspective and now that Canelo is out of the way, it doesn't make any sense for Golovkin to be pursuing a fight with him since he doesn't bring a title to the table. That is, unless he didn't mean anything he's been saying for 3 years now and is only about making money. You can't have it both ways though.

 

Do you always jump into conversations without knowing WTF people are talking about?

atsch

Your post makes zero sense in regards to the thread topic or the person I was responding too. Next time you get the impulse to slingn insults to anyone be adult enough to know WTF people are discussing.atsch

You sound like the 12 y.o. jumping into a grown people's conversations without even understand what is being discussed. :yep

 

You fail to understand that a road to unification is filled with non title fights and if they dont get BJS or have an option to get Canelo its a VERY worthwhile detour for them , you act like they shouldnt fight anything else other then unification fights , i said they got all the belts aside from BJS so to you its the only fight they should go after.
Summary -> the GOAL is to unify , but of course if they can make a Canelo or Floyd or Cotto fight they are going to do it , its big money and publicity , never did they say they wont fight those fights without titles , they always wanted to money and exposure nothing wrong with it , the goal still remains before moving up - unify.

 

You are mad because of the other thread , i see , if you try and not implode it will help.

 

Everyone in pro-boxing is in it because of the money, this is not the amateurs where fighters fight SOLEY for accolades. Craeting a legacy usually equates to building your brand. I'm sure the main reason why GGG would like to unify is to help his marketability and value.

The reason he was willing to drop to 154 (jrMW) was for $$$. The reason he was willing to fight at 164 (SMW) was for $$$.

Why risk getting hurt for $2 million when you can risk it for $12 million.

 

I have no idea what "other thread" you referring too... Kindly share a link.

I am not mad at all. I have logic and facts on my side. I get a small kick out of your ignorance. :yep

 

^^Him relinquishing the title should be more than enough evidence to GGG's team that he wants nothing to do with him.

YOu know I really like Golovkin, but why is he wasting his time with any of these fighters at MW? DO you believe any of them have a shot to beat him?

Against guys like Saunders, Jacobs, Lee, etc, I think they'd all be at best a 5-1 underdog. Now why would anyone want to watch matches like that when we know they're very one sided in nature?

How about Alvarez- why would anyone watch that matchup? Everyone pretty much knows Golovkin will more than likely batter him into submission.

And there lies the problem with Golovkin, he's not challenging himself at all. There's ONE guy that can give him a 50-50 fight and his name is ANdre Ward. We obviously know Gennady's team has no interest in putting him in the ring with Ward and you can assume what you want from that.

i remember Mayweather going through Genaro Hernandez thinking to myself this is one of the greatest fighters who ever lived. But it took him being in matches where he was the clear underdog such as against Corrales (where he was a 3-1 underdog) to really look at him as a guy on an ATG trajectory. ALL the great fighters eventually challenge themselves and end up fighting someone where it's a toss up as to who will win.

Gennady and his team seem more interested feasting on guys where they'd clearly be at least a 5-1 favortie to beat those guys, some of them upwards of 10-1. How does that help someone carve an ATG legacy for themselves?

So essentially what you're saying is he should forget about trying to get another titlist at 160 to fight him, a tomato can essentially where he'd be clearly favored, to fight a non-titlist more than likely at a CW where he'll still be the overwhelming favorite?

Does that sounds like someone who is daring to be great or just going through the motions?

 

Excellent post!

 

Woah woah woah, the morons said that Canelo vacating the belt was just a tactic and the fight would be easier to make :rofl

 

Its not like Canelo has been coddled. The only notable men he's fought that were smaller than him were Jose Cotto, Alfonso Gomez, and Josesito Lopez.

But remember that for the Lopez fight he was actually supposed to fight Paul Williams, huge ass fighter that fought between 147-160. He also fought Austi Trout, Erislandy Lara, Alfredo Angulo, James Kirkland all whom are about the same size. Miguel Cotto was an established Jr.MW with KO wins over two established MWs.

Also lets not act like GGG hasn't had his share of smaller men, most notibly Kassim Ouma and Gabriel Rosado.

I don't know about GGGs fight night weight when he was fighting in Germany, but its not recently that he started weighing in 170+ on fight night.

Also Canelo has a short Amateur career as he started fighting at 15... GGG has an extensive amateur career with about 350 fights!!!

Also Canelo fighting the likes of Trout, Lara, and Cotto when many were afraid fo these guys has helped Canelo's marketability tremendously. I guarantee you that if GGG would fight the risky fights he would get more world level and mainstream recognition.

It will be broken, but when they see the level of competition from each fighter, there is no way GGG will ever be ranked higher based on breaking that record. Tito, ODLH, Pavlik, Tarver, RJJ, Pascal > GGGs resume

Avoided by who? Ward was willing to fight him, Canelo is willing to fight him, Lara is willing to fight him, Eubanks is willing to fight him, and the 34 bums, journeymen, prospects, and has beens he's fought were willing to fight him.

None of those guys are ATGs or have ever been top P4P fighters like several of the fighters Hopkins beats. So NO, there is alot seperating their resumes.

 

You're forgetting 10% of the Cow purse,

And I think somebody on here said there was an opportunity for him to park cars at the event

 

:rofl:yep:hey:deal

 

What's the thread title? atsch

This thread is about the business side of boxing young man. Now carry on, grown folk talking. :deal

 

Been reading a lot of rumours that golden boy have been in contact and made "beefy" smith an offer to fight canelo

Can't see it been at 154' lbs

 

All it is.. Rumors made up by Golovstans.

You want to know that truth. Before Khan was selected as an opponent, Liam Smith was considered as a possible opponent for Canelo's May fight, instead they opted for the bigger Euro name in Khan.

Liam Smith is currently scheduled to fight a Radosevic next month btw.

Golovstans are sinking to new low levels for some reason. Don't be like thos fools by repeating a rumor with no source. :good