No way Is Crawford a top P4P fighter

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  1. Lifestyle

    Lifestyle True Member banned Full Member

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    You can't put him in the same sentence as Lomachenko and Usyk, there's levels.

    Crolla never landed a glove on Loma, even a total laughing stock bum like Khan landed a few on Crawford lol
     
  2. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    Crawford has done more than both fighters. He is P4P number 1.
     
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  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lomachenko and Usyks resumes and quality of opponent are superior to Crawford.

    Crawford has the skill set of a top 3 P4P but he doesnt have the resume. Arum needs to start putting him in tough fights (he's two best opponents have been Khan amd Postol).
     
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  4. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Christ on a bike. Khan is a total laughing stock bum now? You cant debate with idiots. Im all up for a P4P Loma, Uysk, Crawford debate as much as the next man but if you want to call decent pro fighters like Khan a laughing stock bum which makes sure to give Bud Crawford not a shred of credit for what he does then whats the point. You wouldnt be debating fairly.

    It seems it has got impossible for somebody to just give fighters credit. It seems now to give one fighter credit you have to **** on another one. Beating Khan last night makes no difference to how i see the top of the P4P rankings, bud doesnt rise or fall because of it. But to make a point about Loma you feel the need to **** on Bud and Khan. Give it a rest will you.

    At this moment in time im struggling to split Loma and Bud at the top of P4P while also considering Uysk and Canelo and just waiting on Inoue to pop in there soon too. But you need to **** on Crawford to put Loma or Uysk number 1. You dont have to do that.
     
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  5. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He hasn't done more than Usyk, or even Loma. Other than unifying what's Crawford done? His best wins are Gamboa and Postal, Loma's are Linares, Walters Russel and Rigondeaux. That completely trumps Crawford's, Usyk has unified a better division and has a much better résumé than both of them, Hunter, Gassiev, Huck, Bredis to name but a few
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I really rate Crawford, think he's the best at welter and will prove so if he can get the fights, but I still rate Loma and Usyk above him P4P. That's not a criticism of Crawford, it's just Loma and Uysk are that good.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can't cement or improve your P4P status by beating a guy that's known to be "glass chinned" with a blatant low blow that ends a fight ! ! Crawford is a protected fighter, Khan landed some good shots on him tonight, shots that a P4P #1 fighter shouldn't get hit with. Then out of nowhere he low blows a fighter and gets a TKO. That's not impressive, that kind of a win shouldn't move you up any lists, winning like that is BS.
     
  8. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Protected from who?
     
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  9. Pure Glass

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    He's good, he's not THAT good. He kind of does everthing well, but nothing special. A steady fighter, hardly going to be an ATG. There's just nothing that makes him seem unique
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Protected from criticism. After the fight he seemed to get nothing but praise, he got away with lying about the low blow (he said it wasn't low lmao) didn't get called out on it, then in the press conference he asks Khan if he quit lol. Meanwhile no one is holding his feet to the fire about how that whole sequence happened, his low blow that caused all that. If any other fighter won a fight by a blatant low blow like that they would never hear the end of it.
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a very talented fighter, very good, but he's being marketed as the P4P best fighter in the sport. I mean every interview he was in leading up to this fight, the questions were centered around him being the best P4P fighter in the sport, and like does he care about that, etc etc etc. I don't even like how Bob Arum always compares him to Sugar Ray Leonard. Like it's overkill how hyped this guy gets. Bud is a great fighter but he's no SRL. And I don't mean like Better or worse he fights nothing like SRL that comparison makes no sense.
     
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  12. TEAM_LOMA

    TEAM_LOMA This is Boxing Full Member

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    This thread just proves that no matter how talented or succesful you are, they're will always be haters. Crawford is a great fighter.
     
  13. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Oh ok, i thought you meant he was getting protected from other fighters in the division. It was a low blow it cant be denied and yes he could or should of been pressed on it alot harder than he was. But this is how it seems to be going with all these fighters being contracted direct to networks and after the fight that very same network is the one asking the questions, its all becoming too biased. A network is not going to go hard on a fighter who is aligned to that network. Everything in this sport these days is spin, bias opinion, fake news, partial news a some straight up lies. DAZN wont grill Canelo or Joshua hard on stuff that could make them look bad, ESPN wont do it to Bud, Showtime wouldnt do it to Wilder or a Charlo. You can also see it in the commentary. It was embarrassing having to listen to the SKY card last night, They talk more like fans than neutral stanced experts reporting on and breaking down the fight for us. And the same **** happens with the American cards too and im guessing its the same all over the world.

    It just seems literally every word spoken, every opinion given is running to an agenda these days because everybody who is asked for their opinion or view is aligned to somebody and speaks with that in mind rather than just being honest.
     
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  14. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think we can pretty much say this: Both Crawford and Spence are good, world level fighters. Elite? Maybe. But nothing special. And Daniyar Yeleussinov will prove that by schooling both of them, preferably with one hand tied behind his back, one eye closed and hopping on one leg. Because let's be honest, we are hyping both Crawford and Spence way too much.
     
  15. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    No
     
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