Nonito Donaire has one helluva resume

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  1. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Man, I always forget that 'Axeman' Walters stopped Donaire! After his no mas against Loma he really fell off theradar, hasn't fought again I don't think?

    Nonito has a stacked resume indeed!
     
  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    I dont think he is an atg. If he is? what's inoue, or rigo, or frampton? he lost too many fights at key moments to be an atg. That's a personal opinion, of course, and it is worth what it is worth, i.e. nothing.

    I wish every fighter were like nonito. He deserves a HUGE hat tip. A really huge one. I will definitely miss him, no doubt.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    it was not a "no mas", it was a "**** you arum, I bet against me and I'll never fight again". I'm 100% sure he lost this fight on purpose to cash out and to say "**** arum, **** boxing". I'm completely sure, he hardly received a couple of jabs, he was not hurt at any moment and he didnt even try to fight. One of the weirdest fights I've ever witnessed.

    What arum did to walters (destroy his career and force him to do what he did) is disgusting. We lost an incredible fighter on walters.

    But well... that's another completely different topic, for another completely different thread.
     
  4. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah..guys with multiple losses aren't seen as ATG...
     
  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    the problem is not so much that he has loses. But when and how and vs who he had those loses. He lost vs the best oposition he has faced. That's not what atgs do. An atg can be atg with loses, but usually those loses are not the best oposition they have faced, but random ****, because **** happens (bad luck, lack of commitment, overextended career, life.... whatever).

    That's not the case of nonito, nonito lost always vs the best oposition possible plus he lost massively (at least, very clearly) those fights, and that's why I'm reluctant to say that this awesome fighter is atg.
     
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  6. panchman69

    panchman69 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hoepfully they make inoue vs donaire 2
     
  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have to consider the fights and achievements he's done prior to those losses, and also what he's done with his career overall. He was already a great fighter at Flyweight, Super Flyweight, and Bantamweight and he was Fighter of the Year 2011. He chose to step up to Super Bantamweight and had a good string of wins before running into a talented gold medalist like Rigo. Decided to go further up and lost to Walters, Magdalena, and Frampton. Take note that those losses were fights that took place above his best weight. Then he goes back down to bantamweight and puts up a valiant performance against Inoue who is one of the best current fighters. Just being able to come back and get titles after some setbacks is already remarkable, also add to the fact that he's been a champ in 3 separate decades. To me I think that's what makes him an ATG.
     
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  8. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Donaire has always been sort of vulnerable and he's never beaten the very best men he's faced, but in a greater historical context it's very impressive for a guy who first contended as a flyweight to be as competitive as he was up to featherweight. I think he's been on a slow roll past his best probably since the Rigondeaux loss back in 2013, so the losses afterward shouldn't count too hard against him, minus maybe the Magdaleno upset. Also, Rigondeaux is one of the most talented guys to ever compete at 118/122. The combination of Donaire's multi-divisional effectiveness, the depth of his resume (yeah he lost a bit, but he also beat a lot of very good fighters from a lot of different places with a lot of different styles), his longevity, the fact that he was THE Champion at 122, and his ungodly power, all while being a clean athlete, is remarkable.
     
  9. Flo_Raiden

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    No shame in losing to the Monster twice. Still has one helluva resume and I would love for him to make a full career stop here.
     
  10. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Nonito Donaire is a goddamn legend and ATG. Second only to Manny Pacquiao in Filipino boxing.

    He can still drop down to 115 and clean out the division.

    Or he can rule 118 after Inoue goes up.