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  1. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Have you seen Emile Griffith play the pink oboe?
     
  2. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    meh, he was married :D
     
  3. Jack Dempsey

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    So was Michael Barrymore:D
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    And Elton John :lol:
     
  5. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tommy Gallagher trained Yuri Vaulin, a tall, light-hitting Russian cruiserweight.

    Vaulin was matched with Tommy Morrison, who was on track for a title fight, in a main event on national TV. It was supposed to be no more than tune-up for Morrison.

    From round one through four, the Russian surprised everyone, out jabbing and out boxing Morrison.

    The crowd and Gallagher sensed an upset -- the big money for Vaulin was in grasp.

    Suddenly, in the 5th round, Morrison caught the Russian with a left hook to the body. He crumpled to the canvas and couldn’t beat the count.

    The TV commentator jumped into the ring and shoved a mic in Gallagher's face while he ministered to the Russian.

    "Tommy, Tommy, your kid was so close to being a contender. What happened?"

    "The cocksucker quit!" Gallagher said coast-to-coast.
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You go to the gym, you get to know the fighters and trainers.

    One trainer in particular, a flinty, former Eastern Bloc Olympian, impressed me. Never ingratiated himself with anyone. Even when handed glowing write-ups in the morning about one of his boxers, he brushed them aside with a tight smile, barely nodding to the other trainers and went about his business.

    He had Tony Zale’s cheekbones, a military brush-cut, Charles Bronson’s squint, steel in his spine and fixed disappointment on his face.

    He knew his stuff – no towel carrier -- a tyrant as conditioner. Brooked no nonsense. “Discipline! Discipline! Discipline!” he pounded home in Russian, Armenian, Bulgarian and Cyrillic-cadenced English, working tirelessly on balance, mechanics, correcting mistakes and demonstrating, with the precision of a watchmaker, how to exploit weaknesses, re-running sparring videos.

    He even earned the trust of the gifted enfant terribles -– always testing, quick to lash out – never pulling punches and gloving-up and showing how easily they could be picked apart. Maybe twenty pounds heavier then when he competed as a middleweight, but not hard to imagine how accomplished he was in his youth.

    When there was any hoopla in the gym…say, a press conference with two big-name fighters -- promoters, publicists, reporters and photographers hogging every inch of space, yelling for attention, he ignored it -- kept his charges focused, grunting only “Whatever you having,” when a trainer passed him a deli menu for lunch.

    We had long talks about boxing greats and tactics. His observations were razor sharp -- knew the game inside out.

    Like most trainers, to scrape by -- aside from his own boxers -- he worked corners in the gym, did pads, and seconded main-eventers and prelim kids on cards all over California and Vegas at a moment’s notice.

    So, when I received an e-mail from a film producer asking me to play a cornerman in a TV promo for the Tyson-Etienne fight for a healthy payday, I told him a conflict prevented me, but I had just the guy. I'd pose it to him.

    Handing the trainer the offer at the gym, I was bursting for his reaction, repeating over and over how perfect he’d be for the commercial and how good the money was, pointing to the paragraph.

    He studied it carefully -- pored over every word, then looked up, shook his head, returned the offer and smiled that same tight smile: "It's not for me," and went back to working with a fighter on the heavy bag.

    Puzzled, didn’t begin to cover it: The money was fantastic, the hours were good, he wouldn’t have to say anything, do only what he did normally, and it was being shot on a stage just blocks from the gym. It didn’t add up. Fight jobs weren't falling out of trees...and they weren't asking him to wear a ski mask and carry a gun. So, why not? A gig was gig.

    I kept turning it over in my head driving home: Why would he say no? He needed the money. What possible reason could he have? Then it dawned on me…sadly: the shunting aside of favorable write-ups, never looking at a menu, not a flicker at the money in the offer...this proud man couldn't read.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

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    Fantastic stories John!
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Garfield KO 1 Everyone else in this thead. :bbb
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    For one of the few times in here i think we will have no debate.
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think we're gonna have to resort to making things up. :yep
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    Wouldn't be a first time over here :lol:
     
  12. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. MrSmall

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    That is such a sad story.

    Excellent writing there, Joe.
     
  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm late for every !#%?*% appointment I've had over the last few days because I can't help but turn on the computer and check this particular thread to see any additions from one particular poster -JG.

    Thanks, J, for keeping boxing where it belongs -on the ground and as personal as it gets, and a true reflection of the human condition.
     
  15. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Couldn’t be prouder of making you miss appointments, S. Putting a face on the game is all I’m interested in.