Thought we could do a ‘Ripley’s Believe It or Not’ type thread and see what we come up with. I’ll get us started: Iran Barkley vs Gerrie Coetzee: Iran cut his teeth at middleweight, has some success at super middle and didn’t quite cut it at the higher levels at light heavy. So what’s a poor guy to do? The Blade moved up to heavy and won seven straight fights I think it was (against journeyman type opposition) at heavyweight, starting at 205 and settling in the 220s … he was 230 for this one. Coetzee had been off more than a year before coming back to win his return and then getting KO’d by Barkley in what turned out to be his retirement fight. Gerrie was a bloated 253 for this one. Floyd Patterson vs Pete Rademacher: Pete, an Olympic gold medalist, decided to cash in on that accomplishment by putting together a financial package for Patterson to defend against him in his pro debut in a gimmick fight (the gimmick being the amateur had zero pro fights before challenging for the most important title in all of sport at the time … the world heavyweight championship. Patterson, as he often did, managed to get knocked down by the debuting challenger, and got up to win by KO. What are some other puzzling matchups?
Max Baer v Tony Galento…possibly the two biggest clowns in boxing history (not an insult) two ever meet in a ring. Only regret is no audio of the trash talk.
Ali VS Inoki and Alzado were weird exhibition matchups with one landing horrendous injuries on Ali. Bean and Holmes was pretty absurd. I do like the interview afterward with Louis and I think Lou Costello where Baer was talking about how Galento couldn't slurp up his spaghetti anymore because of his mouth injury or something of that sort.
Hector Camacho v. Sugar Ray Leonard If you had told anyone in 1983 this matchup would someday happen he would have said you were smoking something. Camacho was the WBC 130 lb champion and Leonard was the retired former 147 and 154 lb. champion
It may have been an exhibition, but regardless, Jack Johnson vs Joe Grim. Really though, just Joe Grims entire career.
Battling Bozo and Slapsie Maxie Rosenbloom would like a word. These two somewhat/sometimes comedic light heavyweights fought, I think a few times, with Bozo getting a draw at least once. Bozo, aka Curtis Hambright, was a colorful character from Birmingham, Alabama, who would do things like tap an opponent’s shoulder to get him to break a clinch, making the other fellow think it was the referee, then clock him on the break; he would cup his ear as if listening to the other guy’s corner, carry on conversations with ringsiders while exchanging volleys and wing his right hand up windmill-style only to throw a left uppercut. (I think he once got in trouble with the law post-retirement when he was running a restaurant and short on customers by introducing the concept of topless waitresses.) Maxie, too, was an entertainer who happened to be a fighter. So I’d rate their now-obscure meetings as higher on the clown-vs-clown scale than Baer-Galento, although the heavyweights were far better known.
1. Jake Paul’s career 2. 50 y/o Larry Holmes vs. Butterbean 3. Butterbean vs. Bart Gunn 4. Fury vs. Francis
Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Conor McGregor is an obvious one. Then we had Jake Paul vs Nate Diaz, Ben Askren, Anderson Silva, Mike Tyson and AJ. We also had Francis Ngannou against Tyson Fury and AJ. Followed that with Nate Diaz vs Jorge Masvidal, two former UFC fighter fighting in a boxing ring. And then next weekend we're getting Usyk vs Verhoeven.
On paper James Toney vs Evander Holyfield sounds like an odd match up, especially when its a former MW against a former CW. I don't think anyone would have expected Toney to beat Holyfield rather easily even if Holy was already far past it at this point.
There's different possible angles to the thread, but those are the kind of fights I was thinking of; ie fighters from different eras or weight classes that raise an eyebrow in a "did they really fight each other?" way. For some reason, Jimmy Ellis - Rubin Carter spring to mind. Ali-exile heavyweight tournament winner vs early 60s middleweight contender.
I was also thinking of matchups like Roberto Duran vs Hector Camacho & Vinny Pazienza. It's honestly insane how many eras Duran was fighting in.
Yeah, if youre playing how to connect fighters of different eras à la However-many Degrees of Kevin Bacon … Muhammad Ali vs Archie Moore can get you there. Like let’s connect Butterbean to Joe Louis: Butterbean fought Larry Holmes who fought Muhammad Ali who fought Archie Moore who fought Jimmy Bivins who fought Bob Pastor who fought Joe Louis.