OFFICIAL Joe Calzaghe Appreciation Thread

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  1. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why do Calzaghe fans constantly jizz their pants over him (barely) beating Hopkins? I guess Jermain Taylor must be higher up the ATG ranking than Calzaghe, seeing as he beat a younger Hopkins not once but twice and did it far more convincingly than Joe did.
     
  2. HerolGee

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    but there is a big difference - Jermain does not wait till opponents are weakened by age before fighting them or pick weak opps for almost a decade.

    tbh this is a good point. I think its a lot to do with Joe being white, and I don't mean that in a racial way personally, its to do entirely with some of his fans who want a 'white hope' rather than someone who is genuinely better but not white (jones, Hopkins, taylor, dawson etc).
     
  3. Pez

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    Greatest of all time.
     
  4. lefthandlead

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    Ward would get schooled by Joe. 117-111.

    Maybe stopped, remember...
     
  5. Barry Smith

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    Plus Calzaghe was the big, big favorite going into the fight because while Hopkins was still good, he was well past his best and there for the taking for someone with the right style. Prime Hopkins schools Calzaghe.
     
  6. Barry Smith

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    :lol:Ward is miles better than Calzaghe, anyone who thinks others wise doesn't understand what it is they are looking at when they watch boxing.
     
  7. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That's like saying Ken Norton > George Foreman because of Ali.

    Anyhow, Jermain Taylor was essentially carried out on a stretcher multiple times at the end of his fights. The guy has been knocked out so many times it's scary. Was never able to hold onto his title for more than a few fights.

    Joe? 46-0.
     
  8. lefthandlead

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    Miles better at using his head and elbows!:lol:
    Oh yes, and almost get KO by gatekeepers.

    Joe wins fair, no dirty!
     
  9. zulander

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    watch him rock lacy all over the show in the 9th and tell me he didn't throw a proper punch
     
  10. zulander

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    The Hopkins win was OK but he fought Bhop at the right time. A good win which he was all going to do well in cause of the styles a younger Hopkins probably beats him still a good win. I don't give him much credit for fighting a shot jones

    But Eubank (faded but dangerous), Kessler prime, Lacy prime, Robin Reid prime, Woodhall are all excellent wins and then you have the mid level wins over the likes of Mario Veit MItchell and Brewer. He wasted some part of his career with garbage like tocker pudwill but he was quality and his style and speed would give any super middle fits.
     
  11. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston son, Joe not a puff up we like Tito. Hes not a wanna be actor like Mason " the line" Dixion.

    Hes not William joppy or Howard Eastman.

    Joe beats Hopkins ANYTIME .....28, 38, 48..

    It doesn't matter!!
     
  12. Barry Smith

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    Calzaghe got the fright of his life against Robin Reid which made him realise that anything above that level would result in a loss, so he stayed at home making comments like "I don't want tough fights", I'm not chasing Roy Jones", "I know my limitations" etc and fought guys like Will Mcintyre and Tocker Pudwill.
     
  13. lefthandlead

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    Mayweather got the fight of his life and lost to castillo.

    Ali got the fight of his life against Doug Jones


    SRR got the fight of his life against Carmen B.

    All great fighters have tough fights.

    As for the talk about limitations, fighters talk sh!t at the time to get fights. He wanted people to think he was weak so Jones would fight him.

    Like mayweather talks about fighting manny , then fights a 137 year old Mosley.
     
  14. shanahan14

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    First off, he beat Reid. Fans love to look back and see "SD" then translate that into a Calzaghe loss. He clearly won the fight 7-5 and broke his hand early on. And maybe he did say that during his career. Well, he fought RJJ who was coming off 3 wins, then beat Shieka and Lacy after the Calzaghe loss.

    It's sickening that all credit is taken away. RJJ was 39 and Calzaghe was 36. Let's not act like he was a young buck either. He raped RJJ and made him look like a fool.
     
  15. Barry Smith

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    After cleaning out the SFW division Castillo was Mayweathers first proper fight at LW and it was against a champion who hadn't lost in four years, Castillo was no push over, World class, in his prime and many were tipping him to win. Mayweather broke his hand but still managed to edge out a close win, but with it being close he did right thing and gave Castillo a rematch, this time beating him decisively. Mayweather was also only 25 at the time.

    Calzaghe, at the age of 25 won the vacant lowly regarded WBO strap by beating a past it, weight drained, unprepared Eubank and then defended it against nobodies for 10 years. When he did finally move up he fought a 44-year-old career MW would had already recently lost twice to Jermain Taylor. After getting dropped and scraping a highly debatable SD win (much more debatable than Castillo/Mayweather I) he didn't bother with a rematch and instead fought a shot to pieces Roy Jones, a guy he previously said there was no point fighting he was so shot.

    As Calzaghe said after barely beating Robin Reid - "I don't do rematches", unless of course you're WBO Intercontinental super star Mario Veit.

    Calzaghe fans never fail to own themselves by trying to put down other fighters.