Official Thread- What was the result between Vitali Klitschko and Lennox Lewis

Tko6 4life

 

I guess you are not familiar with the rules as well. Scorecards always matter in case of an injury.

From WBC Rules:
13. Accidental Injuries from Head Butts, Elbows, or other Accidental or Illegal
Actions (injury). The following description applies to injuries from not only
head butts and elbows, but from any other accidental or illegal action as
well.
a) Unintentional/accidental injury. When a boxer suffers a cut,
abrasion, or excessive swelling due to an unintentional/accidental
head butt, elbow, etc.
If the bout cannot continue:
• There will not be a point deduction.
• Technical draw if before the start of the 5th round.
• Technical decision, as per the

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, if after the start of 5th round.

If the bout continues:
• A point will be deducted from the uninjured boxer. This point deduction will compensate the advantages acquired by the uninjured boxer. The referee will have the option to consult with the WBC supervisor to waive the point deduction if the cut is on the hairline upwards.
If both boxers are injured, there will not be a point deduction.

 If there is an accidental injury and the bout continues and is later
stopped after the start of the fifth round due to enlargement of the
same cut by legal punch, it will be a technical decision as per the

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 If there is an injury caused by a legal punch and the bout can
continue, and is later stopped after the start of the fifth round due
to an accidental injury, it will be a technical decision as per the

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 All rounds will be scored even if it is partial round.

14. Intentional Injury. When a boxer suffers a cut, abrasion, or excessive
swelling due to an intentional head butt, elbow, etc.
If the bout cannot continue:
• The offending boxer will lose by disqualification.

If the bout continues:
• Two (2) points will be deducted from the offending boxer.
 If the offending boxer is injured by his own action he will still be
deducted 2 points.

If the bout continues, but must later be stopped due to the same
injury, it will be a technical decision as per the

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. This rule
applies even if the injury’s severity is increased by legal punches
after the initial injury, in the sole discretion of the referee.

POSSIBLE RESULTS
Legal Punch TKO
Accidental Injury TDRAW Before 4 TDEC after 4
Intentional Injury DQ
Legal + Accidental Technical Decision WC-32
Accidental + Legal Technical Decision WC-32
Accidental + Intentional DQ WC-32
Intentional + Legal Technical Decision WC-33
Legal + Intentional DQ WC-33
Intentional + Accidental Technical Decision WC-33

 

Embarrassing?

Thats exactly what happened. What am I going to find in the rule boom that will contradict this.

It was stoppage. Every bit as legitimate as a KO.

They're both stoppages due to injuries stopping the other fighter from competing.

In the KO,the injury is a concussion cause by legal blows to the face.

In the Vitali case, the injury was BRUTAL cuts from legal blows to the face.

 

Yes and this was AFTER 4 rounds and caused by a legal punch.

Therefore

TKO6.

 

:nono It was an injury caused by thumbing. TD6

 

On a thumbless glove???. Those gloves have the thumb stitched on to the side of the main glove!!!

THUMBING IS BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!

 

...also he had about 3-4 different cuts all over his face and even inside his mouth.

Even if Lewis could thumb him, he couldnt have caused all that damage

 

I read most of that drivel you pasted. Where does it say that scorecards matter when the injury was inflicted by a legal punch?

 

THIS was not caused by a thumb!

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Lewis WON get over it.

 

you fellas are on the roll. Seriously, stop embrassing yourselves.

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There were multiple cuts on Vitali's paper face. Were they all inflicted by Lewis' razor thumbs?

 

The one on the eyelid that caused the stoppage is the only one that matters.

TD6

 

TkO6

 

Wow. Even if the butts, scrapes, and rubs didnt cause the damage:think TD6.

Ive never read those OFFICIAL RULES before. Thanks for posting.:good

In slow mo, it is apparent that Lewis's scraping and butting caused the minor cut over the eye, that was opened up by that OH R in the 3rd. But even if it was a punch that opened it up, according to the OFFICIAL RULES, it would still go to the cards after 4.:think
Oh well. I look at the fight as two of the worlds ATG HW's having a fight closer than most expected. Lewis taking Vitalis shots and not folding surprised most of the world, and being the brilliant tactician in the ring, Lewis targeted the affected area knowing he could get the ref/doctor to intervene and stop it early. Very smart boxing by Lewis, knowing he could not go on much longer, and Vitali wasn't going anywhere unless the ref/doc intervened.

Official result is TKO6 per ref discretion. I think that was probably the right result, but it's cool to know it could have just as officially been ruled Klitschko TD6 without ANY bitching or moaning making a damned bit of difference.

As fightfans, TD6 would have given us potentially the greatest rematch in the history of boxing. TKO6 has caused us 200 million threads bashing a top 15 ATG, and minimizing the GOAT's crowning achievement.:deal