Ok..convince me on how PBF would defeat Cotto?

JMotrain · Feb 22, 2008

Mayweather would beat cotto if:

Pot shot, move (run), stay off the ropes, use dirty tactics (forearms, elbows), clutch on the inside, clutch immediately after throwing. Make it ugly and win an unpopular decision.

Basically don't fight Cotto, box him and pray you win enough rounds.

eze · Feb 22, 2008

JMotrain said:

Mayweather would beat cotto if:

Pot shot, move (run), stay off the ropes, use dirty tactics (forearms, elbows), clutch on the inside, clutch immediately after throwing. Make it ugly and win an unpopular decision.

Basically don't fight Cotto, box him and pray you win enough rounds.
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Pray? :nut

AlonzoGreene · Feb 22, 2008

Orishaman said:

I agree with your opinion, but not enough to convinve me he could win ujsing this strategy, I will say taht Cotto's getting hit is a calculated self imposed option, to take what they throw while he gets in position to throw his, he knows that he is the stronger guy in the ring everytiome he is inside the ring...and counts on that, he is very confident that he can take a punch at 147..and he has proof that so far.....I can see PBF letting Cotto on the inside and exchange volume vs power shots...I just can see PBF taking a good ribbing from Cotto even if he is shoe shinning Cotto....agains Cotto doesn;t need to go inside to score, we have learn that Cotto is faster than what he obviously appears...but I like your argument nevertheless.:good
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I believe this proves rather ineffective against Mayweather, who has the best defense in the business. He is strategic when throwing punches and will often not throw a punch if he doesn't know if he can land it. That's why combos and flurries are rare for him now. If Cotto leaves himself open, Mayweather is just going to take one punch at a time instead of trying to land many punches and potentially leaving himself open. I have rarely seen Mayweather countered, so while this may be a decent strategy against more agressive boxer/brawlers like Judah and Mosley, I think it has no effect against Mayweather. By throwing single shots, Mayweather is not going to leave himself open and will open up a nice lead against the usually slow starting Cotto. This will force Cotto to change his game then and he will have to open himself up to counters. This is when Mayweather will start to get more aggreesive and will attempt to try to stop (even though I doubt he will) Cotto.

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

AlonzoGreene said:

I believe this proves rather ineffective against Mayweather, who has the best defense in the business. He is strategic when throwing punches and will often not throw a punch if he doesn't know if he can land it. That's why combos and flurries are rare for him now. If Cotto leaves himself open, Mayweather is just going to take one punch at a time instead of trying to land many punches and potentially leaving himself open. I have rarely seen Mayweather countered, so while this may be a decent strategy against more agressive boxer/brawlers like Judah and Mosley, I think it has no effect against Mayweather. By throwing single shots, Mayweather is not going to leave himself open and will open up a nice lead against the usually slow starting Cotto. This will force Cotto to change his game then and he will have to open himself up to counters. This is when Mayweather will start to get more aggreesive and will attempt to try to stop (even though I doubt he will) Cotto.
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Again...I like your argument but you have to many if's...and you are counting that if Cotto can implement plan A he will be lsot...you are talking a world class boxer that proof he can trained to improve his weakenesses , i.e.-Jab against SSM..., so I beleive that Cotto will be preapre for what ever PBF bring...againt I can see PBF hurting Cotto, not at 147 , Cotto is tway to strong at this weight for PBF to sit an wait..and one punch at the time will not do aginst Cotto, at least I strongly beleive that...and fighting a Baldo type fight of hit an run will not work Cotto is stronger and faster than Baldo so he will move along with PBF.....

I beleive that like Cotto would ahve to fight the best fight of his career to beat PBF , so will PBF to beat Cotto, nothing less than his A game will bring his victory

eze · Feb 22, 2008

Orishaman said:

Again...I like your argument but you have to many if's...and you are counting that if Cotto can implement plan A he will be lsot...you are talking a world class boxer that proof he can trained to improve his weakenesses , i.e.-Jab against SSM..., so I beleive that Cotto will be preapre for what ever PBF bring...againt I can see PBF hurting Cotto, not at 147 , Cotto is tway to strong at this weight for PBF to sit an wait..and one punch at the time will not do aginst Cotto, at least I strongly beleive that...and fighting a Baldo type fight of hit an run will not work Cotto is stronger and faster than Baldo so he will move along with PBF.....

I beleive that like Cotto would ahve to fight the best fight of his career to beat PBF , so will PBF to beat Cotto, nothing less than his A game will bring his victory
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Every analysis is based on ifs. No one knows what will happen exactly on fight night.

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

eze said:

Every analysis is based on ifs. No one knows what will happen exactly on fight night.
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True, but do you know boxing and styles, you been a boxer inside the ring, then you ahve a clear understanding of what it is to be in there and breaking down an opponent style....

Like I mentioned you might skow the internet to post your post but when it come to analysing a fight...it not your cup of tea...and sure it is all "if" except for your opinion which is the unrefutable law when it come to PBF.....:rofl

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

SuperPunchOut said:

Hope the fight happens I seriously think you all have you're heads in the sand watch the mosley cotto fight and watch mosley picking cotto off with ease and then think about what Fmj is going to do to him with superior than mosley everything.
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...hold a second did I miss something...Oh yea...Cotto lost that fight....:rofl

JMotrain · Feb 22, 2008

SuperPunchOut said:

Hope the fight happens I seriously think you all have you're heads in the sand watch the mosley cotto fight and watch mosley picking cotto off with ease and then think about what Fmj is going to do to him with superior than mosley everything.
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Mosley ate shots I'm not sure Mayweather can take. Corley had PBF wobbled, I imagine Cotto could have him out on his feet.

I think it's a great fight win or lose for either fighter. IMO it's a 50/50 fight.

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

JMotrain said:

Mosley ate shots I'm not sure Mayweather can take. Corley had PBF wobbled, I imagine Cotto could have him out on his feet.

I think it's a great fight win or lose for either fighter. IMO it's a 50/50 fight.
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....and that is the way I see it also..both are in their prime, great boxers and more important they usually ahve plan A, B C and D they both are resourceful fighters that are explosive and the minimal mistake each one will make the other will capitalized and that is the resons this fight will be so intense while it last.....

eze · Feb 22, 2008

Orishaman said:

True, but do you know boxing and styles, you been a boxer inside the ring, then you ahve a clear understanding of what it is to be in there and breaking down an opponent style....

Like I mentioned you might skow the internet to post your post but when it come to analysing a fight...it not your cup of tea...and sure it is all "if" except for your opinion which is the unrefutable law when it come to PBF.....:rofl
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I could give you the base analysis of the fight, but since I like Floyd as a fighter you would call my analysis wrong and stupid and I would have no clue what Im talking about. Then again, you don't even realize I posted what would happen in their fight on the first page.

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

eze said:

I could give you the base analysis of the fight, but since I like Floyd as a fighter you would call my analysis wrong and stupid and I would have no clue what Im talking about. Then again, you don't even realize I posted what would happen in their fight on the first page.
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I know you are so deep...Cotto defence sucks...wow you are deep....move over Emanuel, please retire Mr. Bernstein,Teddy Atlas you don;t know ****...here comes EZE..... :rofl

Dude you write youjr opinion and lets see if it hold water...I ahve not made fun of any analysis that has solid chance ......

kg0208 · Feb 22, 2008

I don't know why you two bother.

eze · Feb 22, 2008

Orishaman said:

I know you are so deep...Cotto defence sucks...wow you are deep....move over Emanuel, please retire Mr. Bernstein,Teddy Atlas you don;t know ****...here comes EZE..... :rofl

Dude you write youjr opinion and lets see if it hold water...I ahve not made fun of any analysis that has solid chance ......
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You obviously didn't read the whole first page. You truly are a dumbass.

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

kg0208 said:

I don't know why you two bother.
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You better get of the boeard and continue tapping that ass on your avatar...dammm that is anuice ass!!!

Orishaman · Feb 22, 2008

eze said:

You obviously didn't read the whole first page. You truly are a dumbass.
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EZE EZE EZE...you are so deep.....:rofl ...please fancy me...let me your analitical powers...please

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