Old Foreman vs Wlad Klitschko

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ticar, Dec 19, 2018.


Who wins?

  1. Foreman

    34.5%
  2. Wlad

    65.5%
  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Good fight but an ugly one. There's reason why Foreman avoided Holmes and refused to fight Tucker bc those guys had size and long jabs to out box him .

    Wlad would have that with Power so he would just manipulate Foreman and take pot shots at him at distance. This fight would look.like the Povetkin one minus the throwing to the ground.

    Foreman would win if Klitschko is off his game but we don't use selective losses and even if we did who was slow that defeated Wlad ever?
     
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  2. GALVATRON

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    He also said PRICE fighting , doesn't even know what PRIZE fighting is ! :stirrpot
     
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  3. The Long Count

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    Lol! Maybe David Price is on his mind.
     
  4. Glass City Cobra

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    Im gonna repeat the question: how does wladmir simply keep foreman at a distance and outbox him with his jab when no one ever did that to foreman and flat footed sluggers like brewster, Peter, and a bum like purrity got past his jab?
     
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  5. The Long Count

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    Wlad was up 9-0 on Purrity and gassed out in front of his home crowd.
    Who did Foreman fight in his comeback that was anything remotely like Wlad. Michael Moorer a blown up light heavy tattooed George all night with the jab. Axel Schulz turned George all night and laced him with the jab. Foreman was picking off guys he knew he could beat to get title shot. There was no fights with Bowe and his jab or Lennox and his jab. Or even Ray Mercer and his jab. There’s a reason for that. Also why Foreman ducked Tony Tucker.
     
  6. Man_Machine

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    I've not seen a Heavyweight Championship bout before or since, which was as mucked up beyond all recognition, as Wlad/Povetkin. That's a calamity of a fight, which is best forgotten; not held up as an example of one of Wlad's finest wins. It was truly atrocious but, fortunately, almost impossible to replicate.
     
  7. GALVATRON

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    You haven't seen Bowe vs Elija Tillery then. I believe it included groin kicks and someone's trainer yanking Tillary over the ropes flipping him into the outside.
     
  8. GALVATRON

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    Foreman never boxed any elite guy with 82 inch reach at 6'6. Only way Foreman wins if Wlad punches himself out but under steward they would eat Foreman up with simple basic boxing with power speedy jabs. Foreman would not have the punch count to get Wlad worried to much.
     
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  9. Man_Machine

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    That bout^ was not a contest for the World Heavyweight Championship and it ended in an early DQ, unlike the painfully drawn out spectacle of Wlad/Povetkin, which didn't so much as generate a warning from the ridiculous referee Luis Pabon.
     
  10. GALVATRON

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    Wlad was in his early 20's and only weighed 225 or so wasting many punches not pacing himself. It was also stopped by his corner prematurely he was fighting back and would have got a UD win bc it was a 10 rounder.It was a rookie mistake by the fighter not holding on and trainer. Wlad actual went down from exhaustion not a punch when the towel was thrown in.

    It doesn't really matter the approach to Foreman would be way different ,and maybe Foreman does beat a young Wlad but it's unlikely . Only guy to truly defeat him was fast southpaw Sanders who he underestimated not including AJ who fought a much smarter Klitschko.
     
  11. Man_Machine

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    Foreman didn't need to have fought an 'elite guy' with whatever wingspan, in preparation for Wlad.

    Foreman was also more than able to match the sort of punch output Sam Peter mustered so, team Wlad are going to need to find a way to stop Foreman coming forward and landing.

    At the end of the day, it seems no one can provide a sensible answer to the question: How does Wlad keep Foreman at a distance?
     
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  12. Man_Machine

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    It was a 12-round International title fight, in which Puritty scored a TKO11. The damage had been done in round-10. A full minute didn't appear to be enough for Wlad to recuperate and he was stumbling around, without throwing any punches from the opening bell of the 11th. The stoppage was sound.
     
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  13. The Long Count

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    Foreman “doesn’t need to face an elite guy” so he gets to face club fighters and we judge him against a fighter that consistently fought and beat championship pedigree fighters for 11 years.
    Wlad’s jab followed by his straight right would have Foreman slowed down very quickly in a fight. Foreman needed a Hail Mary against blown up Light heavy Moorer. Imagine Wlad’s Jab and right connecting like Moorer’s or Wlad’s one two that Schulz peppered him with all night. I guess because Foreman was able to walk through Ken Lakusta, and Bert Cooper we can believe he would do it to Wlad. Lol.
    Foreman was carefully matched in his comeback. Wlad meanwhile faced the best fighters in the division for 11 years often barely losing a round but Foreman wins?
    Maybe if Foreman walked through Lewis, Tyson and Bowe in his comeback I would listen, but not the guys he did face. Stewart lumped him up Wlad stops him
     
  14. Man_Machine

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    Who had Sanders, Brewster and Fury fought between them that were anything remotely like Wlad, before they all beat him?
     
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    Either way one more rnd he would have most likely survived. Purity himself said he shouldn't have won and got lucky so not sure what your reaching for ?

    The stoppage wasn't sound bc Klitschko was in motion of swinging back, anyone who watches the fight will see no clean blow lands on Wlad and the fight was stopped i on the feet, so you need to rewatch it.