Lets hope Usyk is wise with his money and retires soon and doesn't go on a losing slide like Holyfield.
Usyk is undoubtedly an ATG and one of the best fighters of his generation. But where does he rank amongst the greatest Cruiserweight / Heavyweight in your opinion?
Holyfield lost fights at heavyweight because he fought better fighters and fought until he was way past his prime. Guys like Riddick Bowe and Lennox Lewis would of smashed Usyk.
I don’t generally rate guys who are still active. But when Usyk hangs em up he will certainly be in the conversation
Right, and I am not denying that whatsoever. But to say that Holy's win over Bowe gives him some kind of ascendence is not correct. I am not, conversely, saying that Usyk's win over Fury does, so pointing out Tyson's flaws is really not the thing, here.
Only one of them is undefeated. Usyk is miles ahead of Evander and he’s 37 years old. 37 year old Evander against Usyk would not be a fight. Easy money for Usyk.
Yeah i agree with that i said in a previous thread here like a week ago that i rank Fury/Bowe similar in regards to Heavyweight rankings, so i would say Holyfield beating Bowe and Usyk beating Fury are fairly similar wins. But the difference for me is that Holyfield just has too much of a deep resume at Heavyweight, i rank beating Tyson even a 1996 version better than beating say Joshua. And wins over Foreman, Holmes, Mercer, Dokes, Thomas, Moorer, is just too many notable wins for me to rank Usyk above Holyfield. Like i said Usyk has the edge in Cruiserweight resume but in regards to Heavyweight resume Usyk needs 1 or 2 more notable wins.