Oleksandr Usyk respect thread

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okey, there is giraffe, talented and physically gifted boxer. One dimensional and predictable. Now Giraffe is nervous, not possible to tell how motivated he will be to prepare for next fights.
     
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  2. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk simply hasn't done anything yet in the heavyweight division to warrant any accolades.
     
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  3. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fought at a lower division its very hard to label as a Heavyweight, otherwise James Toney, Roy Jones Jr....etc

    Usyk at Cruiser is already legendary, whatever he does at Heavyweight will influence the future relationship between Cruiserweights and Heavyweights, maybe he can chin all the Heavyweight...we don't know...Not everybody is as reckless as Andy Ruiz...So it remains to be seen
     
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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That actually makes sense.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Usyk deserves immense respect just for being Usyk

    For his achievements as an amateur

    Olympic gold (was robbed in his first Olympics against the eventual silver medalist and would've definitely won gold had he not been IMO)
    World Amateur gold & bronze
    European gold & bronze at two different weights
    Won all his bouts in the WSB up at SHW beating some of the world's most elite fighters at that weight who were way bigger, more powerful and heavier than him

    For his achievements as a pro

    WBC cruiserweight champion
    WBA cruiserweight champion
    IBF cruiserweight champion
    WBO cruiserweight champion

    Unified the cruiserweight division in just 15 fights

    Ring Magazine champion at CW
    Ranked #4 P4P by The Ring Magazine
    Winner of the Muhammad Ali trophy
    Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year (2018)
    ESPN Fighter of the Year (2018)
    Sports Illustrated Fighter of the Year (2018)
    Boxing News Fighter of the Year 2018


    For being a fearless road warrior who unlike so many of these supposed greats who steadfastly refused to travel and compete on a playing field that wasn't stacked in their favour where they didn't have all the advantages or as many as they could wangle in their favour at the negotiating table he literally jumps at the chance to face his opponents in their backyards time and time again

    Beat WBA and IBF champ Gassiev (26-0) in Russia
    Beat WBC champ Briedis (23-0) in Latvia
    Beat WBO champ Glowacki (26-0) in Poland
    Beat former long reigning WBO champ Huck (40-4-1) in Germany
    Beat former WBC champ Bellew (30-2-1) in the UK
    Beat the streaking Michael Hunter (12-0) in the US
    Beat Mchunu (17-2) on neutral soil

    Even though that ^^^ is Serious Banger & Savage Punching KO Artists Central not once was he seriously hurt or close to hitting the canvas in any of those fights

    And he beat Chisora in his backyard, will very likely be facing unbeaten Juggernaut Joe Joyce in his backyard if live events are back on track in the UK by then, and ditto for the winner of AJ vs Fury should he get past Joyce

    There's no I'm not signing on the dotted line unless I get my way and can wangle as many advantages as I can in my favour to increase my chance of winning with Mr Usyk or using illegal tactics and cheating to try and gain an advantage within the ring

    And no ducking or cherry-picking or waiting for his opponent to get old and decline before he steps up to the plate or avoiding certain styles or punchers. He seeks out the best and he wants to not only beat them but to do so in their backyards. How can you call yourself a true fight fan and not respect someone who does religiously what so many others you worship at the altar of refuse to do even once or would never agree to do a fraction of the time?

    How many fights we fans are desperate to see don't happen or happen too or even way too late because one or both parties refuse to make any concessions at the negotiating table? Well if every boxer was like Usyk this would never happen

    He wins his fights via good old fashioned clean boxing and the application if skill and is a gentleman in and out of the ring and funny and entertaining as ****

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    This is a man who has not only won all his world titles in his opponent's backyards but all but one of his defenses have taken place on his opponent's backyards and even then on the sole occasion it didn't it was on neutral soil. Unheard of in this day and age

    Usyk is the rarest of breeds and if you don't put some respect on his name I will personally put a fatwa on yours.
     
  6. Heisenberg

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    Big fan of Usyk but the clock’s ticking on him. At 34, he has the wear and tear of 350 amateur fights including an Olympic cycle. Plus 18 pro fights that include 7 world title fights. He’s not a huge puncher, so he has miles on the clock and the body is breaking down. He can’t afford to waste 2021 waiting around. I think he could have beaten both AJ and Fury but as he’ll not realistically be getting the chance until late 2022 so it makes me think he won’t.
     
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  7. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    actually Usyk had been down by slip when was a bit too close vs Briedis. Briedis is dude who really never was down not in ammies nor semi pro nor pros.

    Usyk ofc was damn better Olympic rules boxer than Briedis ( this guy was mainly KBer in amateurs so not comparable vs Usyk ammy boxing experience level ).

    Glowacki Poland fight was real fight in opponent's hometown vs then undefeated 26-0-0 Glowacki 30 y.o version.
    These other marquee fights were in WBSS with no local refs, judges and inspectors.
    backyards phrase is just empty PR if talk is about WBSS fights.

    Still yeah, Usyk was damn cool in ammies too, I had watched this guy in ammy also as junior boxer.
    In CW pros prime Usyk version was really most mobile and fast, also highly skilled boxer.

    For his style speed and agility matters a lot and therefore aging matters a lot there.
    If he was 27-30 y.o now.....damn how cool boxer he might be to watch.
    Like 30-31 y.o Briedis versions too were most watchable.
     
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  8. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, Usyk had fought in amateurs everyone he he been given to fight with, then in semi pro WBS, later in CW pro WBSS tournament.
    ;)
    Usyk wasn't cherry picker old fighters beater to get surnames on resume for fanbase. Unlike this bodybuilder kid.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk is a guy who will always move and jab and clip rounds off against plodders, like he did at cruiser against Gassiev and Glowacki, and at heavyweight against Chazz and Chisora.

    It's just busy work to him. Keep the hands moving. Keep the feet moving. Win rounds. Move on. It's like amateur boxing to him. He can do it in his sleep.

    The guys who aren't plodders, however, who don't just put their gloves up and try to get inside, will give him problems, like Briedis did.

    Unfortunately for Usyk, Fury and Joshua aren't plodders. So I don't see him getting close to beating either. Or a guy like Wilder or Parker or Povetkin, either. He'd probably do okay against Ruiz (who can stink out the joint on occasion with his lack of effort).

    If he was around back in the mid 2000s when Rahman and John Ruiz and even Byrd (who was like Usyk-Lite) were sluggishly passing belts around, I think Usyk could've won everything. Not today, though.
     
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  10. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    I don't even understand what the ****ing argument is here?

    The fact of the matter is someone is claiming he's one of the most skilled heavyweights around despite not fighting anyone.

    How does bringing up Pulev prove or disprove anything?

    Is it an argument against Joshua for fighting him?

    All I'm saying is wait until he's ****ing fought someone close to top 10 quality before calling him great at this level.
     
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  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ****in this is beacuse you are ****in poster.
    You maybe compare boxer's skills regardless from their size.
    Let's place vs Dorticos prime Floyd Jr or Canelo, he will beatup them till ICU. Cos he is larger and might deliver them flying out of the ring thanks to size difference alone.
    Does this means that they are lesser skilled than he? Really?

    Seriously, 39 y.o Pulev version like he was vs A.J also Usyk, Briedis, Dorticos had stopped in distance.
    If you snob ***** pupp do think that Dorticos or Briedis does beat less hard than 39 y.o Pulev just because his size you are an idiot.

    Yes, your puppy A.J should had Usyk not Pulev to prove anything in the ring.
    Too much fear for pupp fabboy in internet?
    Even supposed easy nights in the office vs not enough old for A.J Ruiz had delivered us nice lesson about A.J.
    Also how A.J gassed vs Pulev and then his gas tank had worked again later.


    Rude A.J fan you are, nothing more.
    If you do think that Pulev when 39 y.o is more dangerous than Usyk, Ruiz or Briedis or Dorticos, you simply are stupid.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I just think pound for pound Usyk is more skilled than Wladimir Klitschko and Tyson Fury. Not saying he could beat them though
     
  14. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not you
     
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  15. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad and Fury, also Ruiz and Briedis are more comfortable with clinches than Usyk and some other boxers.

    Klitshko also were active when they were past 36-37.
    Too early to evalue.

    Usyk really was cool ammy and WBS, then WBSS pro boxer at CW.
    Now looks that out of prime, still some heritage values does work for him.