Oleksandr Usyk vs. Deontay Wilder.

Usyk should really school Wilder and thats an understatement. Wilder would have a much better chance in his best days of 6 years ago of landing the right hand than now.

 

Maybe if he put egg weights in his gloves.

 

At HW he hasn't had many fights... But he's still beaten the guy with the best resume in the division twice, clearly.

And as far as this conversation goes, he's still much more proven at heavy than Wilder even in ca. 1/10th as many bouts.

 

In the 3rd Fury fight Wilder just decided to go out on his shield which is admirable albeit dangerous and stupid too. Anyhow, Wilder had legitimate success early in 3rd Fury fight w body work but...quickly got away from body work when Fury closed the distance and smothered him and started laying on him

 

In the WSB he did a shutout of Joe Joyce on every judges's card. That was a 5 rounder IIRC without headgear, which is how a lot of pro undercard fights actually look like lol.
His Olympic gold and World Championship gold are in Heavyweight. He did also beat Michael Hunter at CW, who's a solid heavy right now and probably was at the time of the fight after rehydration let's be honest.
If he beats Fury, which I think he will, he has a short but very legit run at pro HW. Would it have been any better if he crushed 14 no name cans before that?

 

You realize he beat a lot of super heavys at wsb who are/were world-class?
Joyce, madu... or how his name was and a lot of other guys

 

Realistically I don't think Wilder at any point would've had any chance at all with Usyk - not now and not in his prime (whenever that's supposed to have been).

Usyks just way too skilled, too clever and has a better chin than anyone Wilder's knocked out.

He'd break Wilder's brain - then everything else.

 

Wilder's most recent fight is proof that he has no chance against Usyk. No matter how bias you are this cannot be denied.

 

Yes he needs to step up and win some fights against the likes of Szpillka and Gerald Washington before we can class him the same as the noteworthy hw fighters.

 

Of course it would be more credible when he would clean up the division and also fought and won against wilder , hrgovic , zhang etc .

Nobody says he is a bad boxer since he is not , his superb skills are non questionable but i do not like his very thin fight record in pro hw .

 

His two biggest wins at heavyweight are better than anything Wilder has done in his whole career. He would have utterly schooled Wilder given what we saw in December.

 

Based on wilders awful performance against parker i agree with you .

But when you judge wilder vs usyk by wilders weak performance against parker i never again want to see you making the "styles makes fights" argument again since it would be a double standard .

 

They do, and my statement doesn’t change that. Wilder has always struggled against fighters with fast hands and good footwork (as his own footwork and ring IQ have always held him back). Usyk posses incredibly high levels in both these departments, hence why he would be a stylistic nightmare for Wilder and most heavyweights.

This judgement is not solely based off Wilder’s performance against Parker, it’s based off performances against Fury in 2018, alongside Spzilka and the other fighters he has struggled with.