So, let's say Roy does indeed have a glass chin. So what? In my opinion, he deserves even more praise for going all those years as a dominant champ and never getting KO'd until the Tarver fight. No small feat for a guy with a glass chin. Everyone gets so obsessed about the chin issue, and sometimes rightfully so. But, in my opinion overcoming physical deficiencies to excel at a sport is indeed admirable. How many times have you heard smaller heavyweights get praised for hanging in there with the bigger guys. Well, like a guy with a bad chin, such fighters are dealing with a physical disadvantage. Some fighters will be able to deal with it successfully, others won't. Some fighters with shaky chins can get by, others cannot. Very few times does a fighter have the perfect physical arsenal to succeed, and demanding that each fighter should is stupid.
Nah, you just avoid answering questions and ignoring facts with stupidity and go right back to your claim that doesn't hold any weight. You can't carry a glass chin from middleweight to heavyweight. You will be hit, he was hit many times, ive seen him walk through alot of punches in his prime... A man with a glass jaw who was naturally a middleweight doesn't get hit by a heavyweight that dropped Holyfield, who's chin is still really good, and not at least fall down... FACT
He went through his biggest wins with only being knocked down once...There have been great chin fighters that get knocked out in their later years. Especially when moving up from their natural weight. You don't believe a chin can fade with age? Perhaps you described yourself as judging Jones' a bit harshly, you don't sound bias at all by the way.
Seriously, this is so to the point and exactly the truth...I have no idea why this thread is still alive. Great post bro....great post!!! :happy
kg - As someone who has made much of his livelihood from writing, it's simply not an efficient usage of my time to 'debate' a writer of your caliber. My advice to you is to continue to write as frequently as you can, as this is the surest way to improvement for a writer of your skill level and experience. I have made my case regarding Lewis' chin numerous times on this forum with the help of hours of research. Your inability to follow the connective thread of my argument from one post to the next is neither my responsibility nor my concern. Hopefully when you get the chance you will review what we both have said and see the flaws in thought and presentation your posts have contained, particularly in your skewed portrayal of my own argument. Until next time, best of luck and keep on writing!
Because it's not true. Hill was a better fighter when Jones fought him than Tarver when Jones fought him. I would venture to say that Griffin was as well. BTW, it's not like Tarver gave a rubber match to Harding, who beat Tarver and was beating Tarver before the KO. Jones beat him as well. You only say Tarver was the best LHW Jones fought because he actually beat Jones.
Acting superior doesn't make you superior. Your argument is full of holes. You remove certain factors from the equation for Lewis while adding others for Klitscho. I am not going to get into this childish rhetoric. Bottom line, Klitscho has been down more times and stopped more times than Lewis. You can add in all the factors you like and manipulate them all you like. Doesn't matter to me.
Neither of the choices imo. I think RRJs supernatural speed and talent avoided many flush hits, but if he had a glass jaw, he would have gone down much earlier in his career. Not even sure if chins wither with age, but his reflexes did, and so did the outcome.
Ok, moving on... Here is an image which contains the beginning of a sequence Wlad has never experienced: This content is protected Now, why do I say that Wlad has never experienced the sequence which this gif contains the opening frames of? 1. This is the start of Lennox Lewis being counted out (KO'd), something which has never happened to Wlad K as a professional fighter 2. This is the second time in his career that Lewis was stopped from the force of a single blow, something which has never happened to Wlad even once in his career, let alone twice. These are but two factors (not counting the gif itself) which lead me to the conclusion that Wlad's chin is vastly superior to Lennox's own non-iron mandible. To all aspiring writers: Stick with the facts, and avoid what is known as 'bait-and-switch'-type arguments. Engaging in such arguments is likely to lead to necessitated name-switches on sites like ESB due to embarrassment as a result of faulty predictions based on untenable 'analysis' which amounts to wishful thinking. Such a fate has befallen many an ESB'er, as well as many writers/posters on numerous other sites and forums. Suffice to say, I've never had the need to change my own name when using ESB's or any other forum, particularly not from projecting my own hopes onto a fighter(s) whose chin -- or any other physical attribute(s) -- is unable to bear the weight of my delusions. Associating yourself with such shoddy writing practices is a sure-fire way to lose credibility from reputable sources, readers, and posters. Peace!
Wow a thread about Roy Jones has turned into a Lewis V WALDO argument :huh A WALDO lover is posting that Lewis had a shaky chin, and used 'jab and grab' tactics :huh This place is always good for a laugh, if nothing else.