Only two possible ways to beat Mayweather....

you are a fool:yep

 

do you believe it should be "shoulder role"?

 

Quality comment! haha! :rofl

 

Besides hoping that he enters a fight with a shoulder injury.

 

Gotta love that to come up with a possible way to beat Mayweather, you need to look at moments where he was "staggered for half a second".

I guess that's not necessary for the other welterweights if you know what I mean.

 

Man I remember the good ole days of ESB. Someone would join and write a 1000 word post introducing themselves and trying to show their boxing IQ. This board was ruthless, 3 pages of responses "stfu noob"

 

You are wrong on a few levels.

1. I think you got the hands mixed up. Mayweather sometimes throws a sloppy straight right low or to the body. That is what Zab (and Hatton) capitalized on. Zab with a blazing fast lead right counter hook. I don't think Pac has anywhere near Zab's "aha gotcha!" timing. Hatton, IMHO, lucked into it. Anyway, Mayweather saw it so will probably adjust. Mosley is orthodox so the lead hand is nullified by the right shoulder and throwing the rear hand gives Mayweather time to recover.

2. You don't get the reason why the shoulder roll is effective. It isn't the position. It sucks. It is the fighters ability to READ the opponents shoulders and roll accordingly. He rolls left when the opponets left is thrown. He rolls right when the opponents right is thrown. His rear hand glove is still at his temple and able to be used. Somehow, you have decided that a person can throw a over hand right while their rear sholder is forward? Huh? So your "wonder punch" MIGHT land once. If it is thrown again it is nothing that a quick slip of the rear glove forward to "catch" the punch then right back to shoulder rolling. Get in the position and move your right hand off your temple, to your forhead palm up, then back. You moved what two inches? Punch nullified.

The only thing that can beat or give FMJ trouble is superior physical attributes (Zab, Corely) or an insane will to win (Castillo) and those still weren't enough. We have have yet to see what Mosley brings to the table other than a stellar career.

 

Give me a good baseball bat and I'll beat Floyd.

 

Two other ways to beat him, be a prime Oscar De La Hoya, or a Manny Pacquiao. That's insta-win.

 

Yeah because prime Oscar had such an easy time beating Pernell Whittaker and "prime" Pac handled boxers so well... Please. :verysad

 

You need to use it in conjunction with feints to throw Mayweather off guard, and preferably have Mayweather close to or against the ropes so he doesn't have as much of a chance to move back or lean away, but you'd be surprised by how well the overhand right can actually work. There was a good thread from earlier today where Michigan Warrior posted a couple of clips where several fighters had success feinting Mayweather, then hitting him with the overhand right.

Around :15 in, Marquez feints a jab then hits Floyd solidly with an overhand right.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgpGxle0T0&feature=related[/ame]


Around :15 in Oscar backs Floyd to the ropes with some jabs and rights that are mostly blocked, then feints a left to Mayweathers body and overhand right.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSK4z6u7_E&feature=related[/ame]

2:50 Castillo hits Floyd with two hard left hooks to the body, bends down and feints to the body again and catches Floyd with a solid overhand right
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpVJ2XfaXKY[/ame]

There are more examples like that. I know Marquez scored with the overhand right while having Floyd along the ropes a couple of times, although it didn't do him much good. Considering the speed and strength Mosley has in his overhand right, I certainly hope that these tactics are going to be adopted by Shane.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218555

That's the link to thread if you want to check it out, there was some good discussion there.

 

A peak SSM with his God-like speed would've been hell, for any smaller fighter.

 

I think you mean Corley, not Clottey.

 

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