Oscar was the only one talented enough to beat Floyd

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  1. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    DLH was a tough impressive fighter. I will give him that, it is impossible to get to his status being mediocre. But just as much as he is hated on, the same goes for people over-hyping his ass too. And he did not lose ALL of his big fights, but he lost ALL of his BIGGEST fights. Oscar is an exceptional fighter but he is not what many people hype him up to be either.
     
  2. Goodhill

    Goodhill Iron Horse - born to lose Full Member

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    Castillo had enough talent to beat Mayweather in their first bout. One must really be blind or looking through all-american glasses no to see who won that fight. May is the most talented one at the moment but boxing isn´t all about talent.
     
  3. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agreed. that first fight could have been scored either way.
     
  4. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    but you still made yourself look like that irrelevant hater that you are with the gatti comment, Sister.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously?:? How can anyone say that with a striaght face? DLH's Defense "sucked". If it sucked so bad how was he able to become champion in 6 divisions, top the P4P charts at one time and more importantly the only person who had a connect percentage HIGHER than 35% on DLH was Manny. Not even Floyd was landing at a connect percentage above 35% when they faced off and Floyd is considered one of the most accurate counter punchers in the game today....that wasn't a DLH in his absolute Physical Peak either.
     
  6. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    regardless of your allegiances, neither of these fighters makes the other "look like a child".

    you're another classic example of someone who's never boxed in his life letting uneducated allegiances disrespect the ability of people who have.

    stop living your life through your heroes...why the **** do people keep doing this?
     
  7. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    I must be one of those then because I have Castillo losing everytime. However, he did give floyd a tough ass fight which clearly showed he had the talent but not necessarily the smarts to do so.
     
  8. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    That was in regards to floyd's competition being lacking since castillo.
    I think there are plenty of guys who can give floyd a run, and even some that he did fight that stood a chance...

    I never said Gatti had the skills, I just said it was another sub-par selection.

    Floyd is probably the smartest fighter when it comes to opponent selection. It's a very calculated move on his part.
     
  9. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    good ****. but he wouldnt be Luke Hoe if he didn't make outrageous hate filled statements. I've seen people blinded by love and its sad, but this kid is blinded by hate and its pathetic.
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    LOL

    Pernell whitaker is a top 20 ATG... floyd mayweather barely beat a guy who fought him 10 YEARS prior.

    So whitaker in his final years goes toe to toe with a guy who gives floyd a fit a decade later?





    I look at JCC vs Whitaker as the advanced superior version of Castillo vs Mayweather.

    Both were robberies, too.
     
  11. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    connect percentages are aggression..not defence. oscar was sound when he was the aggressor.

    oscar was a beast when he was young and throwing combos, but don't forget he's a fighter who lost the biggest fights of his career.

    oscar's chin was granite - but that's often a prerequisite for punchers who aren't defensively sound.....

    ..oscar, vargas, margarito - it's also why these guys burn faster than guys like hopkins when they get old.
     
  12. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    I see now Luke Hoe, you are like a Larry Merchant ass mu****a. If a fighter doesn't squeak out a fight or win unconvincingly then he automatically took on a fighter who was too easy and he is obviously ducking competition. Well at least larry waited until he was 100000 years old to be delusional. You are still young and you have no hope.
     
  13. HyperUppercut

    HyperUppercut Atheists,u'll get da shit Full Member

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    :patsch:patsch:patschC'mon dog. DLH's defense was ass.
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    As talented as floyd is, he is way over hyped by his fans.

    He hasn't done nearly enough vs tough competition to prove anything beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    His real challenge is a former flyweight champion and he won't even acknowledge him.
     
  15. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Good post. The Oscar that got robbed in the rematch with Mosley might of eeked out a split decision, but to me talent doesn't equate to skill. Obviously Floyd is one of the most talented and skillful boxers out there, but great talent sometimes is enough to beat a skillful or skillful and talented boxer. Talented means you are very good or great at something. Like Castillo, I don't think he was skillful enough to beat Floyd the first time around, but he was talented enough in what he does. Manny Pacquiao isn't as skillful as Floyd, at least it looks that way, but I think he is talented enough. I don't think Calzaghe was as skillful as Hopkins, but was talented enough to beat him. Sturm and John John Molina weren't as skillful as Delahoya, but their talents made it controversial wins for Delahoya. And so on and so forth.