Other all time great heavyweights vs ranked southpaws. How does Wlad rate here?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    First off, I want to say the Klitschko vs Ibragimov fight was disappointing, and lacked action. Instead, Wald put on a technical clinic on jabbing, ring generalship, and defense vs a ranked southpaw who can counter punch.

    But enough of that. For the Wald detractors out there riddle me this. How did other great champions do vs ranked southpaws.

    Surely, those who are player hating can name me other ATG's great looking good vs southaws.
     
  2. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wlads not an ATG first of all, Holyfield looked good in his second fight against Moorer, unlike in the first fight where his heart was a big concern.
     
  3. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    Punisher,

    Holyfield lost the first fight vs Moorer and used a lame excuse. If his heart was that bad, the medical pre fight check up prevents the fight in the first place.

    Do you have any examples of ATG doing well vs Southpaws or not?
     
  4. Fighting Weight

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    44 year old Foreman V Michael Moorer, who was 10x the fighter Sultan is. Imagine what a prime Foreman would have done to Moorer, then come back to me about WALD V Foreman when you have a minute.

    Please stop making excuses for a **** poor performance and just hope he does more to impress in his next fight.

    Another good example of how an ATG does against a southpaw is WALD V Sanders, except WALD isn't an ATG, and Sanders wasn't ranked. Other than that it's a good indication.
     
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    I already named it, the second Holyfield/Moorer fight. There are very few good southpaw Heavyweight fighters, if my memory serves me, Moorer was the first Heavyweight champion that was southpaw. Chris Bryd was easy pickens for Ike Ibeabuchi, who knocked him out in the 5th round. Wlad also had a easy time with Bryd the first and second time.
     
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    Foreman was losing nearly every round, and caught a blown up light heavyweight southpaw with a suspect chin. Ok, this is one example. However, Wald beat a very good Byrd twice, plus Ibragimov. IMO these are three wins over ranked southapws / alphabet champions.

    I would say Wlad’s credentials vs ranked southpaws are better than Foreman’s. Let' see what the collective wisdom of the ani-Wlad fans can come up with. Impress me.
     
  7. BigReg

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    Michael Moorer was the first soutpaw HW champion. So there aren't exactly a lot of good southpaw HW's in the sport's history.
     
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    I said ranked top ten southpaws. There have been quite of few of them, Reg.
     
  9. Punisher33

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    Thats what I already said to him, but he wants to make his fighter look good somehow, but making a lame thread like this, the haters might be out in full force today, but so are the nuthuggers.:yep
     
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    The chubby little midget with no skills that Wlad fought would get killed by the ATG's regardless of whether he's a southpaw or not.
     
  11. BigReg

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    I know there's been top 10 southpaw HW's, but the fact that none of them managed win a title until the mid 90's says alot. As a matter of fact, who are your top 10 southpaw HW's of all time?
     
  12. Fighting Weight

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    WALD fought Byrd twice and Iggy. You really think those wins are more impressive than a 44 year old man KO'ing a guy that beat Holyfield? You REALLY do???

    **** it I'm going to find 5 left handed ******s to fight tomorrow, I'll come back on here 5 and 0 with 5 KO's and say I'm the best heavyweight ever.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    There's been about 10 souhtpaw heavyweights? Sorry Reg, you don't know much. There are plenty of sout paw heavyweights. In the old days, they were shuned because they spoiled fights.
     
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    I asked you to name your top 10 HW southpaws. I have no idea how this posts corresponds to that requests. Again, who are your top 10 southpaw HW's?
     
  15. Mendoza

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    Yes. Beating Byrd twice and Ibragimov once is better than beating Morrer once.

    In fact Byrd beat Holyfield who KO'd Moorer, and beat Tua, who KO's Moorer in one round.

    Is this the best the anti-Wlad fans can come up with. Perhaps beating a ranked southpaw is an accomplishment all in itself. It seems that Wlad is #1 among heavyweights in beating ranked southpaws.:deal