And there are photographs of Marciano, no kind of choir boy, doing this to the likes of Walcott. Michael Spinks was pretty adroit at it. Indeed, there's ample footage of Robinson executing it. George's "mistake" was getting caught dropping Qawi with it by the referee, but I enclosed that word in quotation marks because Ike may well have had that shot in mind when he turned his back in disgust and quit. We know that Jay C. Thomas was his own best promoter, although the O'Grady's gave him a considerable boost before their falling out. Sean O. might have some interesting comments to offer about him today. Back when I was a kid, I made the mistake of teaching some impressionable peers some extremely dangerous holds and moves. But I had some sense of restraint instilled in me by a modicum of training that I wrongly assumed they innately shared. (Again, we were young.) A couple of these peers attempted to fully inflict this new information on unsuspecting others, but fortunately botched the attempts. Lesson learned for me. During the 1970s, when Vince McMahon, Sr. ran the WWWF, Vince, Jr. was doing the broadcasts of televised matches, and always inserted a cautionary voice-over at the outset stating, "Viewer discretion is advised." That warning has not been heard in decades, and roughhousing kids have been hurt and even killed mimicking that stuff. You and I also know that impressionable kids would misuse that information as a short cut means for winning in competition when Thomas expressly disclaimed that it was for "just in case" retaliatory defensive purposes only. (Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.) I wonder if he would have published it in an internet age. (I also wonder how long before atomic bomb instructions are released on-line.) With knowledge comes responsibility. (Just discussing this stuff on an open forum probably crosses the line, if somebody winds up getting hurt because of it. Boxing is supposed to be a "sport.") Shommel did not ask strictly for illegal tactics though, and only the kidney shot is inherently illegal among the examples he forwarded. Max Schmeling used a similar punch to put out Adolf Heuser in his comeback after Louis II, in what is among the earliest extant footage of a televised bout. (It was described as deflecting onto the jugular vein, and Heuser had to be revived. For Max, it was a very impressive comeback after the loss to Joe, and in front of 70,000 fans. If WW II hadn't gotten in the way, Schmeling may have been a top five heavyweight for a few more years.)